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Old June 6 2009, 05:26 AM   #1
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Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

After Chekhov tells Spock that Vulcan has a matter of "minutes" to survive, Spock enters the turbo lift. While he is in the turbo lift, Uhura asks him why he is beaming down, and Spock answers the question. Only after answering Uhura does Spock press the button to engage the turbolift. Spock spent at least five seconds answering Uhura's question.

But Amanda was lost by a few seconds at most.

(1) Why did Spock pause to answer Uhura, when he knew a few seconds could easily mean the difference between life and death?

(2) Had Spock not paused, would Amanda have survived?
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Old June 6 2009, 05:30 AM   #2
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(1) Why did Spock pause to answer Uhura, when he knew a few seconds could easily mean the difference between life and death?
Because the audience needed some exposition on why Spock had to go down to the planet himself instead of "nameless officer #232".

(2) Had Spock not paused, would Amanda have survived?
Possibly. Possibly not. Maybe she would have gotten clocked in the head by a falling pillar.
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Old June 6 2009, 05:33 AM   #3
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

plus it seemed like it took time to reset the transporter from beaming sulu and kirk in and then beaming spock down.
the crazy gravitational shifts vulcan was going through probably made it harder..
plus yeah the audience needed and answer to what was spock doing.
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Old June 6 2009, 05:34 AM   #4
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

If she hadn't stood too close to the cliff edge when she knew the ground was collapsing around them, it wouldn't have mattered.
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Old June 6 2009, 05:35 AM   #5
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

Funny I was just thinking of posting this question.

It is rather unnerving in the film..

"How long does the planet have?"

".. minutes.."

".. they are in the katric ark, blah blah blah.." Noooo.... just go and explain later!!
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Old June 6 2009, 05:43 AM   #6
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(2) Had Spock not paused, would Amanda have survived?
Possibly. Possibly not. Maybe she would have gotten clocked in the head by a falling pillar.
Wasn't Amanda ahead of the person who was hit by the pillar? Had she exited five seconds earlier, wouldn't she have missed the falling pillars by an even greater distance than she did?

Ironically, only because of Sulu's delay did the Enterprise survive.

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Old June 6 2009, 05:53 AM   #7
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

And what if Olsen had not been such a cowboy and landed? With the charges? Could it have made enough of a time difference that the drill would be destroyed before it was close enough to the core?
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Old June 6 2009, 06:04 AM   #8
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And what if Olsen had not been such a cowboy and landed? With the charges? Could it have made enough of a time difference that the drill would be destroyed before it was close enough to the core?
very possibly..
it would have given them for sure an extra person in the fight.
he could have been setting off charges while kirk and sulu kept the romulans distracted.

back to the transporter room..
it seemed like as soon as the transporter was ready spock was gone..
kirk was still trying to talk to him.
for that matter had on the stuff i mentioned above they would had had to done a quick check just to make sure nothing was damaged from bringing sulu and kirk in the way they did.
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Old June 6 2009, 06:54 AM   #9
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it would have given them for sure an extra person in the fight.
Why did they go with only three people in the first place? Why not parachute to the drill in overwhelming force? Wanted to give the bad guys a sporting chance?

Don’t tell me: they only had enough equipment for three people. The rest comes on Tuesday.
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Old June 6 2009, 07:44 AM   #10
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

^

Pike was goin' for subtle while takin' the shuttle over to Nero's ship. Seems to me that there was only room for three folks - all the seats were filled, and only three handles came down from the ceilin' before Pike turned opened the hatch.
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Old June 6 2009, 07:47 AM   #11
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it would have given them for sure an extra person in the fight.
Why did they go with only three people in the first place? Why not parachute to the drill in overwhelming force? Wanted to give the bad guys a sporting chance?

Don’t tell me: they only had enough equipment for three people. The rest comes on Tuesday.
Pike's plan relied on subterfuge to work. More people on Pike's shuttle would have risked detection, as would more people flying down to the platform.
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Old June 6 2009, 09:31 AM   #12
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

Seeing as though the writers wanted Vulcan gone and Amanda deaded, the outcome of Spocko's trip to Vulcan would have been the same no matter what they did/didn't have him/anyone else doing/not doing. Yeah.

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Old June 6 2009, 09:54 AM   #13
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Why couldn't Chekov just lock on to her as she was falling like he did with Kirk and Sulu. Then again, he could have lost her signal entirely.
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Old June 6 2009, 10:01 AM   #14
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

The bigger question regarding Olsen is, why was he the only one with explosives? Kirk and Sulu both had problems landing, too, so it wasn't a sure thing that Olsen would have made it even if he hadn't been so stupid. Wouldn't it have been a safer option to give all three of them the equipment to sabotage the drill?
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Old June 6 2009, 10:21 AM   #15
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Re: Why did Spock pause to chat before teleporting to Vulcan?

They were in a hurry, maybe they didn't have time to fit each of them with a pack of explosives?

The real question is why was Olsen such a dick!
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