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Old April 26 2009, 04:12 AM   #1
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Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

Red vs. Blue is one of the funniest things around. When the original show finished 1-2 years ago I promptly forgot about it, but I recently learned they did a whole 'nuther series and I just finished it on DVD!!! It's called RVB Reconstruction, and it's done on the glory that is Halo 3.

Reconstruction was mostly great but there were a few disappointments for me. The Halo 3 graphics were an amazing improvement, of course. And the level of cinematic storytelling they can do is just amazing now. It really does feel like a tv show and not some dudes playing with Halo. I did appreciate the increase of plot and action with a single larger story.

I did appreciate the attempt to explain and legitimize the crazy storylines of the original series. Church all along was an AI, the mental copy of the Freelancer Project's Director! Woah. This explains Church's crazy ghostly body-hopping and why he wasn't possessed by O'Malley the way the rest were. Cool. However I just rewatched the first season and they complain about the stink his decaying corpse is making, which doesn't fly with the new information. Unless he was supposed to be in a human body whose mind was erased or something?

Not to mention the fact that the entire RVB series was apparently just a huge experiment / deception. There never was a Red vs. Blue faction, which we kinda knew from Vic playing both sides against the other. Yet at the beginning of Reconstruction, we see Caboose with a Blue unit...

However this also brings me to my number one confusion about the series including the fifth season and the Out of Mind mini-series. I thought they were propelled five hundred years into the future or something. Yet when Tex goes off on her own she meets her buddies just fine, and the way Reconstruciton plays out they're clearly in the present. So did they not actually go into the future then? How did they get that wrong?

That said, I did miss the endless do-nothing antics and bits of the old show. I always enjoy when they have a purpose but there must also be a place for the standalone gags as well. The new main character, Washington, is a straight man from an actual drama, which I wasn't crazy about.

But here's my major complaint: where are all the characters! Sister makes a single episode appearance. Tucker only makes a single on-the-radio cameo. Donut doesn't appear at ALL! He's listed in the credits, though. They make it seem like Tex survived (after all she's a ghost body-hopper as well, remember? Which doesn't make sense given the new explanation for Church) but she never appears. Omega/O'Malley doesn't appear but I guess he was just absorbed by Meta. Andy the Bomb and Gary the Computer don't appear. They don't mention Captain Flowers or the aliens or Tucker's alien kid.

According to wikipedia, the next RVB series they do will be more irrelevant comedy and less serious. Sounds good to me! I enjoyed Reconstruction very much, but I look forward to more silliness.
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Old April 26 2009, 04:19 AM   #2
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

The 4-episode miniseries, Red vs Blue: Relocated, is all that's been released since Reconstruction ended. That mini strongly suggests that what Tucker and Donut have been up to all this time will factor into the next series.

Supposedly work is still progressing on RvB Animated, the first episode of which is on the Reconstruction DVD. Haven't heard anything about that in a while.

Donut actually does appear in a Reconstruction deleted scene on the DVD. It's really just a cameo (like Tucker), though.

Tex's status is unknown. It's hinted that she's an AI created by the Director to simulate a lost love of his....whether she was absorbed by the Meta or remains at large is unclear.

There were definitely Red and Blue factions. There's no way around that. Exactly what they were fighting over or why no one seemed to take them seriously isn't clear, though.

As for the time travel thing.....obviously it wasn't as big a time jump as Sarge thought. Maybe a year or two.

"Time....line? Time is not made out of lines. Time is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round!"
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Old April 26 2009, 02:46 PM   #3
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

Yeah I just watched the deleted scenes this morning. Backdoor infiltrator, heh. I'm going back through all the previous years now and I'm going to keep a careful ear out for the time jump aspects. So what's the story with the RVB Animated thing? They have that little 4 minute bit on the DVD with no explanation. Is this supposed to be a full on series? On the internet? On TV? I found it interesting that they were fighting the Covenant in it, so while this places it outside the main continuity probably it was definitely different and interesting.
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Old April 26 2009, 02:49 PM   #4
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

There isn't a lot known about it yet. All I found was this:
http://rvb.wikia.com/wiki/Red_vs._Blue:_Animated
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Old April 27 2009, 01:54 AM   #5
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

I think after my roommate and I finish up Angel (we just finished Buffy season 7 today), Red vs Blue will be our next DVD watch. Should last a week or so....might have to split seasons 3+4 over 2 days each.....

Oh, and I found this, it's pretty cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ARBzpgMBZU
"Freelancer power, Activate!"

And a best-of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BLlMnWn-E
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Old April 27 2009, 03:26 AM   #6
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

I listened to most of the commentary track for Reconstruction (fell asleep halfway through) and I'm still wondering why they decided to leave Tucker and Donut out of the show. I love those characters! Well I love all of them. Cept for Washington cause he's just a straight man. Sarge and Caboose are my favorites though.
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Old April 27 2009, 09:41 PM   #7
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

Donut, at least, was absent because Dan Simmons had a new kid. Tucker I'm not sure about.
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Old April 27 2009, 09:57 PM   #8
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I really missed the "bow-chikka-wow-wow" jokes And the aliens! They need to use the aliens again. Blaaaaaargh?
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Old April 29 2009, 01:50 AM   #9
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

I made a Bow-Chicka-Bow-Wow joke in another thread a few weeks ago. No one got it.
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Old April 29 2009, 04:29 AM   #10
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Surely RVB didn't invent "bow-chikka-wow-wow"? I must have heard that somewhere else before that. BTW I'm now rewatching Season Three and I just saw the future explosion / Halo Two episode. It's interesting that there's a Warthog there that just needs tuning and the Red Zealot is there as well, which does suggest they weren't really in the future they just thought they did. On the other hand, Omega/O'Malley seemed surprised that the Zealot was there and said he must have been caught along in the explosion. So Omega thought they were in the future... I dunno. I'll keep watching!
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Old April 29 2009, 04:31 AM   #11
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No, they didn't invent it, but throwing it out whenever something remotely suggestive is said with [Tucker] tags.....that's a reference.
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Old April 30 2009, 08:26 PM   #12
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Now I'm up to Episode Fifty and I'd forgotten about this but Church is sent 1,000 years into the past where he spends all that time with Gary the Computer, who is later revealed to be Gamma the deceiver. So if THAT'S true then I supposed he didn't actually go back in time 1,000 years. But he DID go back in time to jump around in the previous episodes and end up causing those events to happen. So I guess they didn't actually jump in the distant past/future ever. I wonder if Church's jumping back a few weeks is related to Wyoming's limited time loop ability somehow super charged by the explosion...?
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Old April 30 2009, 08:30 PM   #13
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Re: Red vs. Blue Reconstruction (Halo)

On the other hand, Church being an AI neatly explains why he was able to wait 1,000 years for the teleporter to be finished.

Since Gamma worked with Wyoming, it's safe to say that his time device is responsible for most of the time-jumping, however much of it there was.

What's really going to confuse you is when Caboose's Head Church is sent back to become Yellow Church in episode 100....
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Old April 30 2009, 10:21 PM   #14
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What's really going to confuse you is when Caboose's Head Church is sent back to become Yellow Church in episode 100....
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Old April 30 2009, 11:58 PM   #15
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Wait I just watched S5 before I started going from the beginning, and I just saw the episode with the piss-color Church from the time jumping, they don't actually connect back to that in Ep100 do that? I don't remember that... ... One thing I always found interesting about this show is on the one hand it's a goofy comedy series on the other hand it's got this labyrinthine plot full of plot twists with constant turns and it's hard to remember what's going on since you only get 5 minutes at a time.
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