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Old June 5 2009, 02:36 PM   #16
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Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? *spoilers for Trek XI*

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Well the writers have said that the previous generation of characters will still end up being born so I think that Tuvok will be just fine.
Of course, it is entirely possible that the "Vulcan" we see in TNG and so on is in fact the new Vulcan colony. After all the sky is a different colour, and particularly in TSFS and TVH the population seems sparse and the planet very different.
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Old June 5 2009, 09:35 PM   #17
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What if the disaster at Vulcan had an impact upon Tuvok's parents in some way?
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Old June 5 2009, 09:59 PM   #18
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Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? *spoilers for Trek XI*

I always interpreted "Vulcanis Lunar Colony" as referring to T'Khut, Vulcan's sister planet, seen in the original version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture and named in the novel Spock's World.
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Old June 6 2009, 05:49 AM   #19
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I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.
So Captain Pike will meet with a horrible accident that will render him further incapacitated? Maybe he accidentally rolls his wheelchair down some stairs and into a fire pit?
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Old June 6 2009, 09:06 AM   #20
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I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.
Billions of dead Vulcans rules out that possibility methinks.
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Old June 6 2009, 10:42 AM   #21
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There is no Tuvok now.
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Old June 6 2009, 12:47 PM   #22
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I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.
Billions of dead Vulcans rules out that possibility methinks.
Did the Vulcans do anything that major in TNG+ aside from Spock and Sarek? Maybe it's just a massive case of that one bum in "City on the edge of forever" where the death was inconsequential to major history.
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Old June 6 2009, 03:30 PM   #23
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There is no Tuvok now.
"There is no Tuvok...only Zuul."

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Did the Vulcans do anything that major in TNG+ aside from Spock and Sarek? Maybe it's just a massive case of that one bum in "City on the edge of forever" where the death was inconsequential to major history.
Don't forget Capt. T'Baseball! Without the DS9 crew taking time out to settle Sisko's years old rivalry, the Dominion War might not have been won!!
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Old June 6 2009, 09:50 PM   #24
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Don't forget Dr. Selar, a Vulcan medical doctor who worked aboard the Enterprise-D. Wonder if she'll still be around, as well.

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Old June 6 2009, 10:48 PM   #25
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I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.
Billions of dead Vulcans rules out that possibility methinks.
Did the Vulcans do anything that major in TNG+ aside from Spock and Sarek? Maybe it's just a massive case of that one bum in "City on the edge of forever" where the death was inconsequential to major history.
That's a pretty powerful statement, when you think about it. 6 billion people on a planet die and the idea is proposed that this is inconsequential to history.

Who is to say what really matters in the history of the universe? In various Star Trek episodes, we see evidence of ancient ruins of civilizations long since past. None of this appears on the surface to affect the current civilizations of the galaxy, yet who are we to determine whether their existence was significant to anyone else?
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Old June 7 2009, 12:57 AM   #26
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Heh, I sound like Q in that last post eh? I still stand by it though.
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Old June 21 2009, 05:23 AM   #27
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Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? *spoilers for Trek XI*

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According to MemoryAlpha, Tuvok was born on Vulcanis Lunar Colony in 2264.

So he probably would still be around.
But where was his daddy?
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Old June 21 2009, 05:56 AM   #28
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I was under the impression the specific use of the phrase 'Lunar' is meant to distinguish Earth's Moon from others. Like how the phrase 'Terra' is meant to distinguish our planet from other 'earths'
Someone is following what I'm saying. It reminds me of the DS9 episode 'By Inferno's Light' where Dax questions the wisdom of going to warp while in a 'solar system'. There's only one Solar System and it's ours... Sol distinctly refers to our sun only. The correct generic term would have been 'stellar system' or specifically the Bajoran System. So following this line of thinking, as far as I can figure is that there must be a colony called Vulcanis on our moon.

Actually our sun does not have a name. Its simply called Sun. Sol means sun. Our moon has no name. Luna literally means moon. Technically this planet does not have a name either, since Earth or Terra means ground. Thus you can have an Earthquake on any planet. It just means shaking ground. We've come to accept the word for ground as the name of the planet. However, Europeans never bothered to give the sun or the moon a proper name.
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Old June 21 2009, 06:29 AM   #29
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I was under the impression the specific use of the phrase 'Lunar' is meant to distinguish Earth's Moon from others. Like how the phrase 'Terra' is meant to distinguish our planet from other 'earths'
Someone is following what I'm saying. It reminds me of the DS9 episode 'By Inferno's Light' where Dax questions the wisdom of going to warp while in a 'solar system'. There's only one Solar System and it's ours... Sol distinctly refers to our sun only. The correct generic term would have been 'stellar system' or specifically the Bajoran System. So following this line of thinking, as far as I can figure is that there must be a colony called Vulcanis on our moon.

Actually our sun does not have a name. Its simply called Sun. Sol means sun. Our moon has no name. Luna literally means moon. Technically this planet does not have a name either, since Earth or Terra means ground. Thus you can have an Earthquake on any planet. It just means shaking ground. We've come to accept the word for ground as the name of the planet. However, Europeans never bothered to give the sun or the moon a proper name.
In Trek, the "galactic" names for Earth things tend to be french. The Solar system is the Sol system, the moon is Luna, humans are called Terrans, and so on.
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Old June 21 2009, 06:41 AM   #30
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Isn't it based on Latin, actually?
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