Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? *spoilers for Trek XI*

USS Kongo · June 5 2009, 02:11 AM

Thanks to recent events in the NuStar Trek movie, I was just wondering if Tuvok from Voyager is still around. You think he is?

Sean

M · June 5 2009, 02:13 AM

Tuvok is still alive and kicking in both universes. He wasn't born on Vulcan, but rather on the Vulcanis Lunar colony. Here.

Mach5 · June 5 2009, 02:15 AM

According to MemoryAlpha, Tuvok was born on Vulcanis Lunar Colony in 2264.

So he probably would still be around.

USS Kongo · June 5 2009, 02:19 AM

Oh, ok, never mind then.

Sean

cwl · June 5 2009, 02:21 AM

But what if one of his parents was on Vulcan when it went bye-bye

Skywalker · June 5 2009, 02:31 AM

^ Possible, but it's just as easy to say that they weren't.

cwl · June 5 2009, 04:44 AM

What if the disaster at Vulcan had an impact upon Tuvok's parents in some way?

nx1701g · June 5 2009, 04:50 AM

Well the writers have said that the previous generation of characters will still end up being born so I think that Tuvok will be just fine.

stupor · June 5 2009, 05:31 AM

I was just having a look at the Memory Alpha entry for Vulcanis Lunar Colony and it says it's not clear where this colony is located. I'm thinking that 'Lunar' only pertains to Earth's moon, as much as a Martian colony could only be located on Mars. So is it possible that Tuvok was born in our neighbourhood?

SilentP · June 5 2009, 07:38 AM

stupor wrote:

I was just having a look at the Memory Alpha entry for Vulcanis Lunar Colony and it says it's not clear where this colony is located. I'm thinking that 'Lunar' only pertains to Earth's moon, as much as a Martian colony could only be located on Mars. So is it possible that Tuvok was born in our neighbourhood?

I dunno, for some reason the addition of the word 'Vulcanis', rather than 'Vulcan' would make me think otherwise, so it could be an odd translation issue. Unless there's a specific location on Lunar that's called Vulcanis?

gastrof · June 5 2009, 07:45 AM

"Lunar" is an adjective, a descriptive word, not a noun.

It also doesn't have to apply to Earth's moon, but could apply to the moon of any planet.

By the way, and this is for nx1701g...

When did the writers say that later characters are still intact in the movie's universe/tiimeline?

Can you provide a link?

The closest any of us heard is that the original timeline still exists and hasn't been erased.

SilentP · June 5 2009, 07:52 AM

gastrof wrote:

"Lunar" is an adjective, a descriptive word, not a noun.

It also doesn't have to apply to Earth's moon, but could apply to the moon of any planet.

I was under the impression the specific use of the phrase 'Lunar' is meant to distinguish Earth's Moon from others. Like how the phrase 'Terra' is meant to distinguish our planet from other 'earths'

By the way, and this is for nx1701g...

When did the writers say that later characters are still intact in the movie's universe/tiimeline?

I'd also be interested in this.

stupor · June 5 2009, 08:17 AM

SilentP wrote:

I was under the impression the specific use of the phrase 'Lunar' is meant to distinguish Earth's Moon from others. Like how the phrase 'Terra' is meant to distinguish our planet from other 'earths'

Someone is following what I'm saying. It reminds me of the DS9 episode 'By Inferno's Light' where Dax questions the wisdom of going to warp while in a 'solar system'. There's only one Solar System and it's ours... Sol distinctly refers to our sun only. The correct generic term would have been 'stellar system' or specifically the Bajoran System. So following this line of thinking, as far as I can figure is that there must be a colony called Vulcanis on our moon.

clint g · June 5 2009, 08:50 AM

stupor wrote:

SilentP wrote:

I was under the impression the specific use of the phrase 'Lunar' is meant to distinguish Earth's Moon from others. Like how the phrase 'Terra' is meant to distinguish our planet from other 'earths'

Someone is following what I'm saying. It reminds me of the DS9 episode 'By Inferno's Light' where Dax questions the wisdom of going to warp while in a 'solar system'. There's only one Solar System and it's ours... Sol distinctly refers to our sun only. The correct generic term would have been 'stellar system' or specifically the Bajoran System. So following this line of thinking, as far as I can figure is that there must be a colony called Vulcanis on our moon.

Well, the term for Vulcan has always been either Vulcan or Vulcanian. There were two ways of saying it. It is entirely possible that there is a Vulcan colony (going by the other name for Vulcan) on our moon, serving a function like a consulate or embasy

Anwar · June 5 2009, 12:17 PM

I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.

June 5 2009, 02:11 AM	#1
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June 5 2009, 02:13 AM	#2
M Vice Admiral	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI Tuvok is still alive and kicking in both universes. He wasn't born on Vulcan, but rather on the Vulcanis Lunar colony. Here. __________________ Bashir: »Out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?« Garak: »My dear doctor, they're all true.« Bashir: »Even the lies?« Garak: »Especially the lies.«

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Mach5 Rear Admiral Location: 里耶卡	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI According to MemoryAlpha, Tuvok was born on Vulcanis Lunar Colony in 2264. So he probably would still be around. __________________ No religious or family tradition can stand in the way of change.

June 5 2009, 02:19 AM	#4
USS Kongo Fleet Captain	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI Oh, ok, never mind then. Sean __________________ MY DVD Review Site Like Ghost Stories? Read My Book!

June 5 2009, 02:21 AM	#5
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Skywalker Admiral	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI ^ Possible, but it's just as easy to say that they weren't.

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cwl Commander Location: Cymru	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI What if the disaster at Vulcan had an impact upon Tuvok's parents in some way?

June 5 2009, 04:50 AM	#8
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June 5 2009, 05:31 AM	#9
stupor Ensign Location: Australia	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI I was just having a look at the Memory Alpha entry for Vulcanis Lunar Colony and it says it's not clear where this colony is located. I'm thinking that 'Lunar' only pertains to Earth's moon, as much as a Martian colony could only be located on Mars. So is it possible that Tuvok was born in our neighbourhood?

June 5 2009, 07:45 AM	#11
gastrof Rear Admiral Location: New Vulcan	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI "Lunar" is an adjective, a descriptive word, not a noun. It also doesn't have to apply to Earth's moon, but could apply to the moon of any planet. By the way, and this is for nx1701g... When did the writers say that later characters are still intact in the movie's universe/tiimeline? Can you provide a link? The closest any of us heard is that the original timeline still exists and hasn't been erased. __________________ Trek: Onscreen is canon, books are interesting. Movies change canon, scissors wrap paper...or...something.

June 5 2009, 12:17 PM	#15
Anwar Vice Admiral Location: Regina, SK, Canada	Re: Hey, um, anybody see Tuvok? spoilers for Trek XI I tend to follow the Farscape theory of messing with history when it comes to NuTrek: If you can get things close to the way they were before the alteration, the time-space continuum will fix itself and get things as close to the way it used to be as possible.