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Old June 25 2009, 10:42 AM   #91
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

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Tossup between the Pike-era Enterprise bridge and that of the Kelvin:



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lvinBridge.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ridgeAlert.jpg
Cool photos, where'd you get them?
Got the Pike-era bridge from Ex Astris Scientia, and I think the Kelvin shots were done by Ryan Church and posted here on the boad.
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Old June 25 2009, 10:52 AM   #92
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

I'm actually really fond of the NX-class bridge (before those weird glowing columns were installed on the Columbia), where all the primary stations are organized in a simple circle surrounding the captain's chair, all with a clear view of the viewscreen. I don't really understand why there's a station for the Chief Engineer, however--shouldn't he be down in, y'know, Engineering? I suppose we could say that he was performing the same duties that would eventually become part of the Ops Station on 24th century bridges...

And now that I've seen those photos of the Kelvin's bridge, that's definitely up there on my list, too.
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Old June 25 2009, 11:16 AM   #93
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

The D - it's got that comforting, we-are-explorers-feel. Everything else in the modern ST has been too obviously military or quasi-so.

Don't like.

Not even considering the TOS original. I met lino in my babyhood and that bridge stinks of it and all the other mid-1960s look. I don't recall it as having been a positive experience and that's the feel I get from the original bridge.

To each her own.
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Old June 25 2009, 12:19 PM   #94
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

I think it was in The Art of Star Trek book they had some prelim bridge designs and there is one that has pit areas for various stations, I quite like that. Or go for the simplicity of the bridge of the USS Prometheus from Message in a Bottle.
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Old June 26 2009, 08:27 AM   #95
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

Actually, I'm kinda liking the Kelvin bridge a lot, after seeing the whole thing there...
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Old June 27 2009, 02:52 AM   #96
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

Star Trek V is much maligned, but I actually like its production design (for everything they actually designed instead of reusing a TNG set), including the bridge. It has my favorite bridge design.

Here's my thought process: The original series bridge looked very well designed, but it was a product of the 1960's. I think it looked functional, but not entirely realistic. TMP came along and took that same basic design and made it more believable, more realistic, still extremely functional. Neither bridge, however, looked particularly comfortable or inviting. Just functional. Which is fine if you are on a modern day military vessel, but these people are supposed to be working in this environment day in and day out for years at a time.

So TNG comes along, and Herman Zimmerman under Gene Roddenberry's direction designs a bridge which looks much more warm, comfortable, inviting, but which, IMHO, loses all of the functional realism of the original. As others have pointed out many times, it looks more like a hotel lobby. Virtually everything is behind the captain, and there's tons of wasted space. All the science and engineering stations are way off in nowhere-land, but at least the captain has the counselor nearby.

Then here comes Star Trek V. And what does Zimmerman manage to do? He manages to take all the warmth from the TNG bridge, including the carpeting, the wood accents, etc. and meld it with the 360-degree functional design of TMP. It is a beautiful harmony and -- had Meyer not discarded it in TUC -- would have served as a nice link or transitional stage between the TOS movie era and the TNG era, showing the gradual evolution in bridge design.

In short, I think the TFF bridge is the best combination of form and function, warmth and realism, of any of the Trek bridges.
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Old June 27 2009, 05:44 PM   #97
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

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I'm actually really fond of the NX-class bridge (before those weird glowing columns were installed on the Columbia), where all the primary stations are organized in a simple circle surrounding the captain's chair, all with a clear view of the viewscreen. I don't really understand why there's a station for the Chief Engineer, however--shouldn't he be down in, y'know, Engineering?
It probably wasn't a station for the chief engineer, per se, but it's always a good idea to have an auxiliary engineering station on the bridge in the event of an emergency--it would really come in handy if the engine room becomes compromised due to a coolant leak or excess levels of radiation and has to be evacuated.

Trip and Scotty seemed to use that engineering station as a means of keeping in touch with the engine room whenever they were on the bridge. Unlike LaForge and Torres, they appeared to have dual roles as chief engineers and second officers...
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Old June 28 2009, 03:08 AM   #98
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Look at the bridges of existing, real-world vessels for examples of how such installations really function, and look at the design of their equipment. Trek bridges function well dramatically and visually, but they don't necessarily make real sense. It is not, for example, terribly consequential that most personnel face the commanding officer or that most of them have visual line-of-sight to big video displays and charts that don't concern their own work.

Jefferies' designs look to have been equally inspired by the dramatic/budgetary demands of the show, probably the look of then-current space stuff like the American space program's Mission Control facilities, and then to some degree by naval control rooms.

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Old June 28 2009, 03:13 AM   #99
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I just thought of something I that is not bridge design specific, but it would be a cool feature to have. I would like to have the ability to have holographic images projected up from, or down to, tables. You know, something where instead of always having to view a screen you can have the option of having it projected in front of you in 3-D on the table. And if you're viewing a planet you can have the option of touching a spot and enlarging it, kind of like on the iPhone. How cool would that be? I just remembered something. I read the first three Titan books and apparently the USS Titan has the ability to do this. I think that would be cool.
Its touch screen but not 3d touch screens...I believe. and yes my Enterprise has this. They also have early prototypes for the Tricorders used in the future in End game though.
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Old June 28 2009, 03:18 AM   #100
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I'm actually really fond of the NX-class bridge (before those weird glowing columns were installed on the Columbia), where all the primary stations are organized in a simple circle surrounding the captain's chair, all with a clear view of the viewscreen. I don't really understand why there's a station for the Chief Engineer, however--shouldn't he be down in, y'know, Engineering? I suppose we could say that he was performing the same duties that would eventually become part of the Ops Station on 24th century bridges...

And now that I've seen those photos of the Kelvin's bridge, that's definitely up there on my list, too.
Because sometimes there are functions he must perform on the bridge. As a rule he is the only one who mans it and otherwise it isn't manned.
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Old June 28 2009, 03:19 AM   #101
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

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The D - it's got that comforting, we-are-explorers-feel. Everything else in the modern ST has been too obviously military or quasi-so.

Don't like.

Not even considering the TOS original. I met lino in my babyhood and that bridge stinks of it and all the other mid-1960s look. I don't recall it as having been a positive experience and that's the feel I get from the original bridge.

To each her own.
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Old June 28 2009, 03:21 AM   #102
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Star Trek V is much maligned, but I actually like its production design (for everything they actually designed instead of reusing a TNG set), including the bridge. It has my favorite bridge design.

Here's my thought process: The original series bridge looked very well designed, but it was a product of the 1960's. I think it looked functional, but not entirely realistic. TMP came along and took that same basic design and made it more believable, more realistic, still extremely functional. Neither bridge, however, looked particularly comfortable or inviting. Just functional. Which is fine if you are on a modern day military vessel, but these people are supposed to be working in this environment day in and day out for years at a time.

So TNG comes along, and Herman Zimmerman under Gene Roddenberry's direction designs a bridge which looks much more warm, comfortable, inviting, but which, IMHO, loses all of the functional realism of the original. As others have pointed out many times, it looks more like a hotel lobby. Virtually everything is behind the captain, and there's tons of wasted space. All the science and engineering stations are way off in nowhere-land, but at least the captain has the counselor nearby.

Then here comes Star Trek V. And what does Zimmerman manage to do? He manages to take all the warmth from the TNG bridge, including the carpeting, the wood accents, etc. and meld it with the 360-degree functional design of TMP. It is a beautiful harmony and -- had Meyer not discarded it in TUC -- would have served as a nice link or transitional stage between the TOS movie era and the TNG era, showing the gradual evolution in bridge design.

In short, I think the TFF bridge is the best combination of form and function, warmth and realism, of any of the Trek bridges.
The fifth star trek movie was a Kirk movie. Why would Kirk have the Enterprise-D's bridge a full century later.
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Old June 28 2009, 04:39 AM   #103
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

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In short, I think the TFF bridge is the best combination of form and function, warmth and realism, of any of the Trek bridges.
I agree. In hindsight I'm disappointed that after TNG we got all these cold Starfleet sets.
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Old June 28 2009, 06:12 AM   #104
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Re: What bridge design do you like?

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Why do you trouble me with that creepy looking face? Its just staring at me...it SCARES me.

it scares my children! get it off there...lol
Cut out the personal 'shots'. Also, you've already been cautioned about multiple posts in a row - don't do it again.

Oh yeah - "BEHOLD! I AM THE MODERATOR AND THIS I DECREE..."
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Captan_Picard wrote: View Post
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I just thought of something I that is not bridge design specific, but it would be a cool feature to have. I would like to have the ability to have holographic images projected up from, or down to, tables. You know, something where instead of always having to view a screen you can have the option of having it projected in front of you in 3-D on the table. And if you're viewing a planet you can have the option of touching a spot and enlarging it, kind of like on the iPhone. How cool would that be? I just remembered something. I read the first three Titan books and apparently the USS Titan has the ability to do this. I think that would be cool.
Its touch screen but not 3d touch screens...I believe. and yes my Enterprise has this. They also have early prototypes for the Tricorders used in the future in End game though.
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I'm actually really fond of the NX-class bridge (before those weird glowing columns were installed on the Columbia), where all the primary stations are organized in a simple circle surrounding the captain's chair, all with a clear view of the viewscreen. I don't really understand why there's a station for the Chief Engineer, however--shouldn't he be down in, y'know, Engineering? I suppose we could say that he was performing the same duties that would eventually become part of the Ops Station on 24th century bridges...

And now that I've seen those photos of the Kelvin's bridge, that's definitely up there on my list, too.
Because sometimes there are functions he must perform on the bridge. As a rule he is the only one who mans it and otherwise it isn't manned.
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The D - it's got that comforting, we-are-explorers-feel. Everything else in the modern ST has been too obviously military or quasi-so.

Don't like.

Not even considering the TOS original. I met lino in my babyhood and that bridge stinks of it and all the other mid-1960s look. I don't recall it as having been a positive experience and that's the feel I get from the original bridge.

To each her own.
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Captan_Picard wrote: View Post
CoveTom wrote: View Post
Star Trek V is much maligned, but I actually like its production design (for everything they actually designed instead of reusing a TNG set), including the bridge. It has my favorite bridge design.

Here's my thought process: The original series bridge looked very well designed, but it was a product of the 1960's. I think it looked functional, but not entirely realistic. TMP came along and took that same basic design and made it more believable, more realistic, still extremely functional. Neither bridge, however, looked particularly comfortable or inviting. Just functional. Which is fine if you are on a modern day military vessel, but these people are supposed to be working in this environment day in and day out for years at a time.

So TNG comes along, and Herman Zimmerman under Gene Roddenberry's direction designs a bridge which looks much more warm, comfortable, inviting, but which, IMHO, loses all of the functional realism of the original. As others have pointed out many times, it looks more like a hotel lobby. Virtually everything is behind the captain, and there's tons of wasted space. All the science and engineering stations are way off in nowhere-land, but at least the captain has the counselor nearby.

Then here comes Star Trek V. And what does Zimmerman manage to do? He manages to take all the warmth from the TNG bridge, including the carpeting, the wood accents, etc. and meld it with the 360-degree functional design of TMP. It is a beautiful harmony and -- had Meyer not discarded it in TUC -- would have served as a nice link or transitional stage between the TOS movie era and the TNG era, showing the gradual evolution in bridge design.

In short, I think the TFF bridge is the best combination of form and function, warmth and realism, of any of the Trek bridges.
The fifth star trek movie was a Kirk movie. Why would Kirk have the Enterprise-D's bridge a full century later.
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Old June 29 2009, 09:17 PM   #105
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Cut out the personal 'shots'. Also, you've already been cautioned about multiple posts in a row - don't do it again.

Oh yeah - "BEHOLD! I AM THE MODERATOR AND THIS I DECREE..."
You sure love your power you manly man u. Because what I'm doing is harmless. I have a lot too say and I am addressing a particular statement. That is what Quote is for. That regulation defeats the Quote function.






Captan_Picard wrote: View Post
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Star Trek V is much maligned, but I actually like its production design (for everything they actually designed instead of reusing a TNG set), including the bridge. It has my favorite bridge design.

Here's my thought process: The original series bridge looked very well designed, but it was a product of the 1960's. I think it looked functional, but not entirely realistic. TMP came along and took that same basic design and made it more believable, more realistic, still extremely functional. Neither bridge, however, looked particularly comfortable or inviting. Just functional. Which is fine if you are on a modern day military vessel, but these people are supposed to be working in this environment day in and day out for years at a time.

So TNG comes along, and Herman Zimmerman under Gene Roddenberry's direction designs a bridge which looks much more warm, comfortable, inviting, but which, IMHO, loses all of the functional realism of the original. As others have pointed out many times, it looks more like a hotel lobby. Virtually everything is behind the captain, and there's tons of wasted space. All the science and engineering stations are way off in nowhere-land, but at least the captain has the counselor nearby.

Then here comes Star Trek V. And what does Zimmerman manage to do? He manages to take all the warmth from the TNG bridge, including the carpeting, the wood accents, etc. and meld it with the 360-degree functional design of TMP. It is a beautiful harmony and -- had Meyer not discarded it in TUC -- would have served as a nice link or transitional stage between the TOS movie era and the TNG era, showing the gradual evolution in bridge design.

In short, I think the TFF bridge is the best combination of form and function, warmth and realism, of any of the Trek bridges.
The fifth star trek movie was a Kirk movie. Why would Kirk have the Enterprise-D's bridge a full century later.
I just used the multiquote feature to stick all your quotes in one place. You could have done this for your replies to other posters as you were told repeatedly to do. Since you haven't, I am issuing one warning for spamming. If you have any comments or questions, please send them to me by private message.

I am a tech person and well the quoting system for this site sux. I cant figure it out and basicly I just want to chat about Star Trek. Sense nobody on this site wants to talk about Star Trek.

I don't want to spend hours figuring out how a stupid multi quote function works. when I do it I also may not want an entire page. I may want some from Page 4 or 5. and only may want to do specific posts as I don't have anything to say to one poster, but to another.

Posting isn't rocket science. I just want to click a button and type. this wasn't spamming. each post had something different about the same subject.

Startrek.com board members waste there time arguing and make talking about startrek into piss crap fights. When there not there creating lame post games that are boring and lame.

Unfortantly this site wants to make it rocket science. I don't spend all day posting. I come for twenty or thirty minutes and leave.

Sense there are NO local trekies....Well theres a few I just want to talk to them online. I proposed a interesting bridge design and NOT one person can offer a opinion. As you can see I guess I will just go look for another site.

Hopefully 3rd time is the charm...if anyone wants to talk about my bridge designs and the photo of my ship in Photo bucket. Email me. My door is open at colep2003@hotmail.com.

No advertisers in my box please.

Also I can see that everyone here is rapped up in the original series.

I like to branch out, true I watch the original series. but it is NOT perfect. It is what it is.

Anyway...Good luck. Hope the BBS comes up with a better format because I wasn't a advertiser. I just had a lot to say on the subject.

It comes down to - Your Loss, not mine...

Im sorry this board isn't open to people with a lot too say.

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