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Old May 26 2009, 07:04 PM   #46
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And Firefly aired during Buffy season 6 not 7.
Firefly aired in Fall 2002, which corresponds to the first half of season 7.

Notice that Fillion and Torres got their roles on Buffy and Angel during the latter half of that year----during the time when Joss was trying to get Firefly picked up by another network and wanted his stars to have work in the meantime.
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Old May 26 2009, 07:21 PM   #47
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I refuse to see this trash. No Joss, No way!!!!
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Old May 26 2009, 07:27 PM   #48
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That is like Bizarroverse news. What happened with the original Buffy was unprecedented. A failure of a movie is spun-off into a pop culture phenomenon of a TV show. If anything, it's usually the opposite (i.e. "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"). So if the only good thing to come out of the movie was the TV show, why would the people who made the movie think making another one completely unrelated to the show as much as the first one wasn't think doing so would be a recipe for success? The mind boggles.

It saddens me that nobody involved with the show became movie stars. James Marsters has only done TV guest spots and Dragonball. Angel (can't spell his last name) and Alyson Hannigan are TV regulars on modestly successful TV shows.

Even Whedon hasn't done much post-Buffy/Angel. I was really hoping when he was attached to "Wonder Woman" that it would be the first step in a great transition for him from excellent TV producing career to excellent movie director career (as "Star Trek" may be for J.J. Abrams).

Oddly enough, the cast member with the most potential for a good movie career right now seems to be Danny "Jonathan" Strong (as a writer!), who apparently wrote a hell of a screenplay for a TV movie called "Recount" and is lining up more solid screenwriting gigs. I really expected Hannigan to blossom into a beloved movie actress. I was disappointed that after her brief time in the spotlight in the "American Pie" series, all she did was (ugh) "Date Movie".

I can't believe Sarah Michelle Gellar hasn't been in anything really good since 1999. It looks like the only movies she was in that were half decent were "Scream 2" and "Cruel Intentions"...but they weren't exactly masterpieces and she only had a cameo in the former. It's like the cast and crew of the show have the same curse that seems to follow most Star Trek actors after their Star Trek career ends.


True. But you have to remember many of the actors in Buffy and Angel were older to start with and are pushing now 40 or are way beyond it. Most tv stars never get big careers in the movies. Especially woman. So its not really a curse but the norm for Hollywood. Any of them would be lucky to land another tv show or a couple of movies at most. So its no surprise at all.
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Old May 26 2009, 07:35 PM   #49
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Dumbest idea ever.

A new incarnation of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" could be coming to the big screen.

"Buffy" creator Joss Whedon isn't involved and it's not set up at a studio, but Roy Lee and Doug Davison of Vertigo Entertainment are working with original movie director Fran Rubel Kuzui and her husband, Kaz Kuzui, on what is being labeled a remake or relaunch, but not a sequel or prequel.

While Whedon is the person most associated with "Buffy," Kuzui and her Kuzui Enterprises have held onto the rights since the beginning, when she discovered the "Buffy" script from then-unknown Whedon. She developed the script while her husband put together the financing to make the 1992 movie, which was released by Fox.
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Old May 26 2009, 07:40 PM   #50
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Wow. This is pretty much going to be Weekend at Buffy's.

Sacrilege.
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Old May 26 2009, 07:56 PM   #51
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It's a dumb idea, but what are you gonna do?
Complain incessantly of course... this is the internet, you know!

But yeah, this is one of the dumbest ideas in a long, sad history of dumb ideas. A Buffy reboot is ridiculous enough, but to do it without any involvement from Whedon is just insulting. And as if that weren't enough, this is being spearheaded by the inept people who completely botched the original Buffy movie. No thanks.

It's mind-boggling that the Kuzuis were able to maintain control of the franchise's film rights, but that's Hollywood for ya'. And her as for her comment "now being the moment to do this", translation: "Vampires are popular thanks to Twilight, reboots are popular thanks to Star Trek, so naturally, a reboot of a vampire franchise will be guaranteed to make us lots of money!" Ughhh.

I just hope that there aren't any studios desperate or dumb enough to get behind this movie. One would also hope that, in a sensible world, the near-unanimous revulsion to this idea from fans would dissuade the Kuzuis and their potential backers from going forward with this... but we all know that this world is not a sensible one, especially not in the entertainment industry.
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Old May 26 2009, 07:57 PM   #52
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People who complain about Joss having cultists confuse me. I have yet to encounter anybody here, or in real life who slavishly follows anything Joss is involved with. If anything, most of the fans of his work I know have one favorite show, and dismiss the rest.

Compare to this the vast number of people who worship George Lucas, and cream themselves over anything SW related. I seem to recall there being a massive outcry of SW fans around the time Serenity was released simply because Firefly fans dared to believe Serenity superior to the SW prequels.

While I agree that Joss probably gets more credit than he deserves (as does Lucas for the first Star Wars), he at least has shown talent to create believable universes and pick talented people to head his shows (unlike Lucas).
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Old May 26 2009, 08:05 PM   #53
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Ok, please can we not turn this into another constant back and forth I hate/love Joss Whedon thread, please gods
Because if that fuckwits like that 3DMasterbator guy comes in here it may as well be locked

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Director Fran Rubel Kuzui, who directed the original film and executive produced the TV programme, owns the rights to the Buffy brand and is planning to reboot the franchise for cinemas, replacing Gellar and the rest of the cast with new actors to fight demons in a different generation.
Kuzui tells the Hollywood Reporter, "Everything has its moment. Every movie takes on a life at some point, and this seems like the moment to do this."
That's what annoys me, "a different generation"
With Star Trek TOS yes, original: 1966-1969, reboot: 2009
Fair to say that's a different generation

Whereas Buffy: 1997-2003, reboot: 2010/11?
Wow, what a massive generational gap there. A whole seven years!



As for Marti Noxon, anyone who writes episodes such as What's My Line Pts 1 & 2, Surprise, Bewitched, Bothered, & Bewildered, I Only Have Eyes For You, The Wish, Consequences, The Prom, Wild at Heart, New Moon Rising, Buffy vs. Dracula, Into the Woods, Forever, and Villains is ok in my book
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Old May 26 2009, 08:07 PM   #54
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I'm not sure I see this working on any level. Even the TV show seemed to outlive its welcome.

As for Gellar, I was never a fan of hers or of the show itself, but she seemed to have enough of a presence to suggest she could have done well in films. Why that didn't happen, I don't know.
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Old May 26 2009, 08:10 PM   #55
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Ok, please can we not turn this into another constant back and forth I hate/love Joss Whedon thread, please gods
Because if that fuckwits like that 3DMasterbator guy comes in here it may as well be locked

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Director Fran Rubel Kuzui, who directed the original film and executive produced the TV programme, owns the rights to the Buffy brand and is planning to reboot the franchise for cinemas, replacing Gellar and the rest of the cast with new actors to fight demons in a different generation.
Kuzui tells the Hollywood Reporter, "Everything has its moment. Every movie takes on a life at some point, and this seems like the moment to do this."
That's what annoys me, "a different generation"
With Star Trek TOS yes, original: 1966-1969, reboot: 2009
Fair to say that's a different generation

Whereas Buffy: 1997-2003, reboot: 2010/11?
Wow, what a massive generational gap there. A whole seven years!



As for Marti Noxon, anyone who writes episodes such as What's My Line Pts 1 & 2, Surprise, Bewitched, Bothered, & Bewildered, I Only Have Eyes For You, The Wish, Consequences, The Prom, Wild at Heart, New Moon Rising, Buffy vs. Dracula, Into the Woods, Forever, and Villains is ok in my book
Well that long has to be at least 2 chav generations, doesn't it?
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Old May 26 2009, 08:13 PM   #56
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btw, as with anything like this, there's a fan petition already for it-
http://www.petitiononline.com/nbmwjw/
(Not that I think it will do any good, as these things tend to go)
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Old May 26 2009, 08:14 PM   #57
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Please please please please happen!

If only to watch the interwebs BURN!

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!
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Old May 26 2009, 08:15 PM   #58
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Director Fran Rubel Kuzui, who directed the original film and executive produced the TV programme, owns the rights to the Buffy brand and is planning to reboot the franchise for cinemas, replacing Gellar and the rest of the cast with new actors to fight demons in a different generation.
Kuzui tells the Hollywood Reporter, "Everything has its moment. Every movie takes on a life at some point, and this seems like the moment to do this."
That's what annoys me, "a different generation"
With Star Trek TOS yes, original: 1966-1969, reboot: 2009
Fair to say that's a different generation

Whereas Buffy: 1997-2003, reboot: 2010/11?
Wow, what a massive generational gap there. A whole seven years!
No kidding -- it's way too early to start talking about a reboot/reimagining of BTVS when the show itself has been off the air for only six years (as of now). Plus it still has the official comic continuation that Joss is doing (which may not exactly be mainstream, but since it is for all intents and purposes canonical, it means, at least to me, that the existing BTVS property is still an active and viable one).

I might be open to the idea of some sort of Buffy revival in the future, but not anytime soon... and definitely not with the Kuzuis at the helm.
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Old May 26 2009, 08:15 PM   #59
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And Firefly aired during Buffy season 6 not 7.
Firefly aired in Fall 2002, which corresponds to the first half of season 7.

Notice that Fillion and Torres got their roles on Buffy and Angel during the latter half of that year----during the time when Joss was trying to get Firefly picked up by another network and wanted his stars to have work in the meantime.

Fair enough. I have horrible TV memory.

But I still think Marti Noxious sucks as a show runner.

People who complain about Joss having cultists confuse me. I have yet to encounter anybody here, or in real life who slavishly follows anything Joss is involved with. If anything, most of the fans of his work I know have one favorite show, and dismiss the rest.

Compare to this the vast number of people who worship George Lucas, and cream themselves over anything SW related. I seem to recall there being a massive outcry of SW fans around the time Serenity was released simply because Firefly fans dared to believe Serenity superior to the SW prequels.

While I agree that Joss probably gets more credit than he deserves (as does Lucas for the first Star Wars), he at least has shown talent to create believable universes and pick talented people to head his shows (unlike Lucas).
The thing is, Star Wars fans admit George Lucas's faults. Whedon fans usually refuse to admit he has any. Star Wars fans actually have moderate and casual fans. Whedon fans - especially Internet Whedon fans - tend to be pretty hardcore.

Granted, you guys have calmed down considerbly since his shows were off the air and his last couple of projects bit the dust. But you people were bitshit crazy for the longest time and deserved the bad reputation you got from it. Board Wars. Flame wars. Internet bullying. Defending every bad creative decision he made like it was Biblical Scripture. Refusing to admit that he has any faults. Circulating shit like The Spike/Dawn rape fanfic. From all the crap I and other Whedon cynics got from you people, I don't feel the least bit sorry that you guys have such a bad reputation. Because it's completely deserved.
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^ Ever wonder if you might be getting a rep of your own with this incessant mono-posting you've been doing?
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