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View Poll Results: Grade "Terminator Salvation"
"I'll be back!" (Excellent) 31 16.58%
"Come with me if you want to live." (Above Average) 61 32.62%
"Thank you for explaining." (Average) 49 26.20%
"If we stay this course we are dead! We are all dead!" (Below Average) 26 13.90%
"You are TERMINATED." (Poor) 20 10.70%
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Old June 6 2009, 04:36 PM   #406
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Re: Terminator: Salvation Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>

Saw it today. loved it. don't care what anyone else says, it was AWESOME!

would've been nice to see more military kit than just helos and warthogs though...
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Old June 6 2009, 09:59 PM   #407
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I've been hearing rumors that they are working on a way to bring Marcus back for the next film, but I'm treating it as rumor.

Sam Worthington was contracted for a trilogy of films though so it's possible he'll be back.
if Clash of the Titans & Avatar do well they will certainly want Worthington back...

btw, do you know anyplace online I can find good stills from the film? There are some good ones on IMDB but they dont allow you to right click/save.
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Old June 7 2009, 01:21 AM   #408
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In terms of story depth and plot, it's on par with Star Trek, so I really don't know why people who loved the latter are bitching about the plot of T4.
I've seen this comment a few times, so let me sat this: it's all about the characters. Both films have passable situations with a few plot holes, and make for excellent spectacle, but Star Trek made time for its characters. Terminator: Salvation only has time for one or two, at least in the theatrical cut, and the supposed leading man is left to be little more than a cypher.
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Old June 7 2009, 07:50 AM   #409
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nx1701g wrote: View Post
I've been hearing rumors that they are working on a way to bring Marcus back for the next film, but I'm treating it as rumor.

Sam Worthington was contracted for a trilogy of films though so it's possible he'll be back.
I hope so, Marcus was great. Get him a artifical heart or another Hybrid one from some Skynet lab and he should be good to go, no? Maybe this is why they didn't show the burial scene from the novel?
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Old June 7 2009, 12:53 PM   #410
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5/10 mediocre and nowhere near a patch on the original first 2. Pretty dumb to boot, why do terminators like fist fights again? Terminator ended with Cameron. The rest are just cash ins. Like if someone wanted to continue writing LOTR stories after buying the rights to the franchise.
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Old June 8 2009, 06:39 AM   #411
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So I read something new today about the proposed Terminator 5:

We're going to see life outside of America for the first time. The setting of the proposed Terminator 5 is not Los Angeles but rather London.
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Old June 8 2009, 02:28 PM   #412
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Why does Marcus not seem to bothered about the fact he's (a) alive and seemingly well when he should be dead, and (b) that he's emerged to a post-apocalyptic world with few humans left? He's taken the whole thing in his stride and doesn't even bother asking Reese too many questions about the state of the world!
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Old June 8 2009, 03:42 PM   #413
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I rated it "Above Average". It has some flaws, but I basically found it very enjoyable, much to my surprise.
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Old June 8 2009, 03:54 PM   #414
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So I read something new today about the proposed Terminator 5:

We're going to see life outside of America for the first time. The setting of the proposed Terminator 5 is not Los Angeles but rather London.
But skynet central is America. What would be in London? And what would Connor be doing there in the past if he travels back?
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Old June 8 2009, 03:56 PM   #415
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Re: Terminator: Salvation Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>

Average.

I've seen it last night and a couple of things really stood out. I really didn't like them giving a face to Skynet. It killed the inherent ominousness of Skynet. And I gotta admit the expository scene where (as someone said earlier) felt like a Bond villain explaining his plan.
The other thing that really bugged me was Kyle Reese being Skynet's primary target. What??? How does Skynet even know of Reese's existence and/or role in the whole events? Did Skynet stumble upon John Connor's birth certificate where it's written "Father: Kyle Reese (b2002-d1984)" and did the math?
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Old June 8 2009, 04:59 PM   #416
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Camren wrote:
Why does Marcus not seem to bothered about the fact he's (a) alive and seemingly well when he should be dead
For all he knows, it could have been a sedative at his execution. From his point of view, he just passed out and was kept sedated for an indefinte time.
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Average.

I've seen it last night and a couple of things really stood out. I really didn't like them giving a face to Skynet. It killed the inherent ominousness of Skynet. And I gotta admit the expository scene where (as someone said earlier) felt like a Bond villain explaining his plan.
The other thing that really bugged me was Kyle Reese being Skynet's primary target. What??? How does Skynet even know of Reese's existence and/or role in the whole events? Did Skynet stumble upon John Connor's birth certificate where it's written "Father: Kyle Reese (b2002-d1984)" and did the math?
Nowhere is it said, that Skynet knew about Kyle being John's father. But it is possible that he knew about Kyle's successful mission in T1. Maybe he had him on his deathlist in order to make sure that the first Terminator get's the job done and kills Sarah.

Of course, the easiest solution to Skynet's mess would be to just not build that damn time machine. That way, Connor definetely won't be born.
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Old June 8 2009, 06:28 PM   #417
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Why does Marcus not seem to bothered about the fact he's (a) alive and seemingly well when he should be dead, and (b) that he's emerged to a post-apocalyptic world with few humans left? He's taken the whole thing in his stride and doesn't even bother asking Reese too many questions about the state of the world!
When he emerges from the mud he seems quite disturbed.
When he is saved by Kyle from the T-600 he is also upset.
Were you at the concession for that?

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Old June 8 2009, 08:13 PM   #418
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How is it that the Terminators know about Kyle Reese in this time period? And if they know they he's Connor's father and that sending terminators back in time will not work (and will ultimately lead to Connor's birth), why would they still do it?
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Old June 8 2009, 08:17 PM   #419
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Re: Terminator: Salvation Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>

Nowhere is it said, that Skynet knew about Kyle being John's father. But it is possible that he knew about Kyle's successful mission in T1. Maybe he had him on his deathlist in order to make sure that the first Terminator get's the job done and kills Sarah.

Of course, the easiest solution to Skynet's mess would be to just not build that damn time machine. That way, Connor definetely won't be born.
Now, now, are you asking Skynet to do the smart thing?
Because in this case, Skynet should have used a PA and ordered:
"ALL TERMINATORS TO CONVERGE TO CORE SECTOR. TERMINATE PRIMARY TARGET! COMPLY!"
But hey!
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Old June 8 2009, 08:18 PM   #420
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How is it that the Terminators know about Kyle Reese in this time period? And if they know they he's Connor's father and that sending terminators back in time will not work (and will ultimately lead to Connor's birth), why would they still do it?
Well they still do need the first terminator CPU to be reverse engineered to create Skynet in the first place.
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