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Old July 31 2009, 03:21 AM   #1
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Changes in ship design and technology

Memory Alpha suggested that scans salvaged by the fleeing Kelvin crew lead to reverse engineering of what they saw that lead to an entirely different Enterprise to explain that discontinuity.

Was this ever mentioned in dialogue or is that a made up assumption?
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Old July 31 2009, 03:27 AM   #2
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This sounds like a made up assumption. A more logical theory is that the attack on the USS Kelvin prompted StarFleet to build a bigger, badder Enterprise and fleet in response.
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Old July 31 2009, 03:34 AM   #3
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It is something that the writers have said in interviews and Q&As.
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Old July 31 2009, 04:11 AM   #4
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Re: Changes in ship design and technology

I read that the engineer who originally did the Constitution-class was sucked out of a hull breach during the Kelvin attack, and the project was put on hold when originally it would've been completed in 2245. It was then picked back up again in the 2250's by the guy who in the prime universe would've done the refit Enterprise, which explains why the new ship looks like a cross between the two.
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Old July 31 2009, 04:24 AM   #5
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It's also so much bigger because the original designer (that got sucked out) was a woman and the new guy is a guy. He's compensating.
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Old July 31 2009, 04:33 AM   #6
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It's also so much bigger because the original designer (that got sucked out) was a woman and the new guy is a guy. He's compensating.


Nah, I think its slightly bigger in that they were trying to build a 2270's design in the 2250's. Less miniaturization = slightly bigger ship.
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Old July 31 2009, 04:58 AM   #7
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It's also so much bigger because the original designer (that got sucked out) was a woman and the new guy is a guy. He's compensating.
It is also why the saucer is in the shape of a Mercedes emblem...
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Old July 31 2009, 07:26 PM   #8
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I read that the engineer who originally did the Constitution-class was sucked out of a hull breach during the Kelvin attack, and the project was put on hold when originally it would've been completed in 2245. It was then picked back up again in the 2250's by the guy who in the prime universe would've done the refit Enterprise, which explains why the new ship looks like a cross between the two.
But the NuEnterprise looks more sophisticated than the TMP Enterprise, more like a 2290s ship with touch screen technology and flat panels embedded into the wall.

But they didn't explain the age differential for Chekov because if he said he was 22 in that episode with the Greek Gods, then he would have to be about 13 or 14 in Star Trek XI, not 17.
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I read that the engineer who originally did the Constitution-class was sucked out of a hull breach during the Kelvin attack, and the project was put on hold when originally it would've been completed in 2245. It was then picked back up again in the 2250's by the guy who in the prime universe would've done the refit Enterprise, which explains why the new ship looks like a cross between the two.
But the NuEnterprise looks more sophisticated than the TMP Enterprise, more like a 2290s ship with touch screen technology and flat panels embedded into the wall.

But they didn't explain the age differential for Chekov because if he said he was 22 in that episode with the Greek Gods, then he would have to be about 13 or 14 in Star Trek XI, not 17.
Chekov's age is different, yes. Must've been born earlier in this universe.

As for the NuEnterprise looking more sophisticated than the TMP design, I have to disagree. Sure, the interiors are a bit more slick, but you can't really go by that. As for touch screens, they had those during ENT, and probably TOS too.
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Old August 3 2009, 02:00 AM   #10
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I only watched the movie once so far, and I'm also lost on how the sub-space transport came into being.

I think Scotty couldn't figure it out, and old Spock leaked the right formula to get it right perhaps.
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Old August 3 2009, 02:05 AM   #11
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Yes that's exactly what happened on screen
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Old August 3 2009, 02:07 AM   #12
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If that becomes mainstream that change in technology would radically change alot of the storylines from the Prime Universe from TOS and onwards.
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Old August 3 2009, 02:34 AM   #13
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If that becomes mainstream that change in technology would radically change alot of the storylines from the Prime Universe from TOS and onwards.
Well if they can get the targeting ability beyond aiming for a large open space in what their beaming to and hoping they don'y miss and either beaming into a floor, wall, ceiling, or space, that is.
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If that becomes mainstream that change in technology would radically change alot of the storylines from the Prime Universe from TOS and onwards.
Spock Prime, who operated the transporter and was left behind with Keenser, easily could have erased the equations for transwarp beaming as soon as Kirk and Scotty were on the Enterprise.
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Old August 3 2009, 03:38 AM   #15
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It makes more sense for the Federation to have the same kind of reaction as the 24th Century Federation when The Borg wrecked their shit.
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