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Old May 18 2009, 08:36 PM   #91
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Re: Dollhouse renewed?

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Good news for you Dollhouse fans.

I've not enjoyed Whedon's shows in the past. I didn't like Buffy or Firefly at all. Is there any chance I'd like this?
Certainly there's a chance. However, while I find the show very watchable, it hasn't yet grabbed me dramatically in the same way Firefly or Angel did, and it doesn't provide the same kind of pure fun as Buffy.

I think of it mostly as a "what-if" tale rather than a straight-up hero/villain story like most TV shows.
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Old May 18 2009, 08:45 PM   #92
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I enjoyed "Dollhouse" so I'm glad to hear it got renewed. Granted, the first half of the season was shaky at best, but towards the end of the season it really got me interested, especially with the introduction of "Alpha" in an active role.

Still, only about 2.7 million viewers? It makes me kind of sad but "Knight Rider" got about 1.5 million-ish more viewers on average and it was canceled. I know it was cheesy bad, but sometimes I like cheese. In light of that, add me to the "surprised" list.

Glad to see at least once scifi show I follow is coming back at least.
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Old May 18 2009, 11:35 PM   #93
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I enjoyed "Dollhouse" so I'm glad to hear it got renewed. Granted, the first half of the season was shaky at best, but towards the end of the season it really got me interested, especially with the introduction of "Alpha" in an active role.

Still, only about 2.7 million viewers? It makes me kind of sad but "Knight Rider" got about 1.5 million-ish more viewers on average and it was canceled. I know it was cheesy bad, but sometimes I like cheese. In light of that, add me to the "surprised" list.

Glad to see at least once scifi show I follow is coming back at least.
I think Knight rider cost a lot more to make then Doll's house.
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Old May 18 2009, 11:42 PM   #94
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I think Knight rider cost a lot more to make then Doll's house.
Also Ford was putting up a lot of the money for the show, something which they're likely not in a position to do anymore.
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Old May 19 2009, 04:17 PM   #95
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Surprising. The smart money was on this show being canned, so much so I was calling the season finale the "series" finale.

Good to see it back though. While never hitting great heights, the series showed steady improvement over time to make it watchable, if short of compelling, television. It certainly has potential.
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Old May 19 2009, 06:05 PM   #96
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Am I the only one who actually loved season one of Buffy?
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Old May 19 2009, 06:18 PM   #97
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Buffy season one was genius until we saw season 2. Then it was okay until we saw season 3. Then it was mostly shit until we saw seaosn 4.

But the second it became clear that Buffy's sister was "supposed" to be there, well it became clear that dawnless season one wasn't even the universe which every one else "experienced" anymore as well as being mostly basic pedestrian tripe.

I understand that the comics did rewrite some episodes by including Dawn.

Are you watching Gossip Girl?

Dawn still looks like she's Harriet the Spy a decade after the fact.
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Old May 19 2009, 07:48 PM   #98
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Well, I can't look at previous seasons in the context of the S5 magical retcon. I think they stand on their own. While there are a few turkeys in S1, there are some truly outstanding pieces of dramady. "The Witch" is still, IMHO, one of the best eps of the series - a brilliant commentary on peer pressure, parental pressure, and an ending worthy of Rod Serling.


I see new pictures of Michelle Trachtenberg on hot-babe wallpaper sites all the time. Mostly, she still looks like a little girl. She's pretty, but that round doe-eyed face will never look grown up.
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Old May 19 2009, 09:25 PM   #99
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Am I the only one who actually loved season one of Buffy?
I loved season 1, I remember having conversations about it at school with kids as well as teachers (only teachers with Star Trek), I still enjoy it now, in fact I just watched it a few weeks back, and forgot how much I loved some of it.
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Old May 19 2009, 09:59 PM   #100
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Well, I can't look at previous seasons in the context of the S5 magical retcon. I think they stand on their own. While there are a few turkeys in S1, there are some truly outstanding pieces of dramady. "The Witch" is still, IMHO, one of the best eps of the series - a brilliant commentary on peer pressure, parental pressure, and an ending worthy of Rod Serling.


I see new pictures of Michelle Trachtenberg on hot-babe wallpaper sites all the time. Mostly, she still looks like a little girl. She's pretty, but that round doe-eyed face will never look grown up.

Her childlike innocence should have been ruined for me by her appearance on 6 feet under when she told the usually gay huge sexy black man that he was not going to "fuck her in the ass".

You know how us idiots try to wedge the lore of Lost into the classic British cult TV show The Prisoner? Dollhouse has some potential for this too. pat McGoohen is quite lucky to have checked out before a sniff of this became possible.
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Old May 20 2009, 12:32 AM   #101
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Buffy Season One had great dialogue and great characters but terrible stories and terrible effects. That was back when Buffy was my favorite character, before she became a shrill bitch.
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Old May 20 2009, 01:00 AM   #102
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it's sad that the biggest surprise Dollhouse can manage comes from Fox renewing it. IMHO.

too bad they can't just renew firefly instead? that show was far better...
Or Futurama!

And we will take what we can get? Ummm... no I will take good TV over bad TV any day.
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Old May 22 2009, 11:51 AM   #103
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Am I the only one who loved Dollhouse ever since the first episode?

I really don't see it first half vs second half. All those minor scenes were building up for the second half, gaddammit.

Also Eliza is great as Echo. Also she's more cute than sexy. With her character's innocence - the drooling makes me wonder.

And that's what I like most about the show - that silent touch of tender innocence. It's probably the most feel-good of Whedon's shows.

The mood, the tone, the innocence, the tenderness... I love it and I yay at this news, so help me God.

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Old May 22 2009, 12:49 PM   #104
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I'm glad this got renewed, I did whatever small amount I could - tweeting @foxbroadcasting and so on.

There's a lot of potential there. Some of it was hidden behind uninteresting one-off stories, ignorant writing (the whole Dominatrix/Dolls aren't allowed to be submissives thing) and the, shall we say, over the top, unrealistic female on male violence that Joss loves to add to his shows but I could still see it was there.

Getting past the first season is always the hardest job for a new show, especially one with a hard to figure out idea like Dollhouse.
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Old May 22 2009, 04:47 PM   #105
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Re: Dollhouse renewed?

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Am I the only one who loved Dollhouse ever since the first episode?
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I wouldn't say loved, but the first episode (just having aired here) was more than enough to make me tune in for the next one
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