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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Khan in the sequel?
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Old May 12 2009, 11:09 AM   #46
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Re: My argument for a Kahn sequel...

No, keep Khan away. Whats the point of making a new time line if you're going to retread old stories. Id much rather they focus on the fallout of the loss of Vulcan or what is occurring in the Laurentia system than re-hash Khan.
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Old May 12 2009, 11:13 AM   #47
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Re: My argument for a Khan sequel...

Personally I was happy enough with the Augment trilogy that Enterprise did. Alec Newman's Malik inherited so much of Khan's DNA, his performance was eerie to watch.

Abramsverse movies should look at unexploited Original Series episodes. Ones that would look even more epic redone on a feature-film budget... like The Doomday Machine clearly.
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Old May 12 2009, 11:17 AM   #48
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Re: My argument for a Kahn sequel...

I am totally against bringing back Khan. Montalban inhabited that role like noone else and he should be entitled to take it to the grave with him. Plus, I think it extremely unlikely that a TWOK mk II would be anywhere near as successful as the original. Plus, current events have now overtaken the old backstory for the character, so to bring him back involves a new back story, which would compromise the writers' insistance that canon didn't change until the Kelvin was attacked.

However, more importantly, all those of you who jizzed your jeans and said that the reboot was refreshing and necessary would make hypocrits of yourselves if you then wanted to see all the old stuff come back again. No, you got your reboot and you are happy with it. With that in mind lets see some new racesm some new worlds to explore and some new challenges. After all, what's the point in a whole new reboot that frees you up from 40 years of canon if you just go and repeat all the old stuff?
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Old May 12 2009, 12:49 PM   #49
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Re: My argument for a Kahn sequel...

T'Paul wrote: View Post
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Did the whale people, Borg, and NASA probe happen in the new reality?
We DON'T KNOW. That's the beauty of the new, alternative timeline. Nothing is pre-ordained and we are free to explore new situations.
But if they didn't happen, why are they in the original timeline but not in this divergent timeline?
Now you are being deliberately obtuse. It is also clear that you don't really want an answer (as the answer to your question is so obvious it staggers the imagination that you would pose it at all).
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Old May 12 2009, 12:51 PM   #50
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Re: My argument for a Kahn sequel...

El Chupacabra wrote: View Post
I am totally against bringing back Khan. Montalban inhabited that role like noone else and he should be entitled to take it to the grave with him. Plus, I think it extremely unlikely that a TWOK mk II would be anywhere near as successful as the original. Plus, current events have now overtaken the old backstory for the character, so to bring him back involves a new back story, which would compromise the writers' insistance that canon didn't change until the Kelvin was attacked.

However, more importantly, all those of you who jizzed your jeans and said that the reboot was refreshing and necessary would make hypocrits of yourselves if you then wanted to see all the old stuff come back again. No, you got your reboot and you are happy with it. With that in mind lets see some new racesm some new worlds to explore and some new challenges. After all, what's the point in a whole new reboot that frees you up from 40 years of canon if you just go and repeat all the old stuff?
While I disagree with your assessment of the new film quite a bit, on this point I am in complete agreement. I want something new, not remakes of specific movies or episodes.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:06 PM   #51
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Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

I was wondering if a Kahn story would be suitable for the next movie, I think we could get bits of the TOS episode & movie in it with a new plot but can they pull off such a plot to make it PG-13 and would it not be too dark that it hinders the normal summer blockbuster feel good factor. I do think the new fans would love a J.J version of Trek's greatest TOS villian.

Start the movie with a voice over talking and maybe showing bits of the Eugenic Wars and talking about Kahn. Then something alone the line of a federation ship finds the Botany Bay floating in space and then wakes up the crew by accident *cue camera panning out and screams* just something alone those lines.

48-72 hours later we could have the USS Enterprise currently at the new Vulcan homeworld get the call from Admiral Pike that Starfleet has loss contact with one of their ship's. Cue USS Enterprise finding Kahn and from there the writers can come up with a plot because thats that they get paid for

Just basic outline what ya think or non Kahn sequel...Also I would want a ship capable of going up against the big E.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:14 PM   #52
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I love Khan, but I am kinda hoping for some new characters and new stories.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:15 PM   #53
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

...just what Trek needs, more recycling.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:18 PM   #54
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I hope they don't re-hash Khan. I'd like to see an all new original plot for the next film.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:18 PM   #55
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

I agree with the previous posters. Not another evil mastermind vs. Kirk story, please, and definitely not one we've already met previously. Perhaps something more... epic?

(I'm not saying that they have to invent a new alien species. In fact, I'd rather they did not. But there's much to do with the Klingons, Romulans etc. without resorting to big baddies from TOS.)
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Old May 12 2009, 09:19 PM   #56
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

Hell no. I never liked him, and never will. Just think: if we're having Khan vs. Nero discussions now, imagine what would happen if we got nuKhan?
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Old May 12 2009, 09:20 PM   #57
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

One more time: It's Khan, not "Kahn."

Sorry to be a nag about this, but I've been putting up with this for years now . . . .


(Nothing personal, Jax. Everyone does this . . . .)
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Old May 12 2009, 09:22 PM   #58
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

I do wonder what can Trek do with the Romulans who are well just hiding away in TOS era and the Klingons who Starfleet has a weak peace and anything major enough to have as a plot would kind of have to kick off a war with the Klingons...all in a 2 hour movie ?

I would hope for a fresh new lot but I do like TWOK and in this new timeline would love to see Kirk meet him under a different set of circumstances.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:23 PM   #59
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Re: Can We Have A Kahn Sequel ?

I think we need a story featuring the wholly redefined Klingons.
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Old May 12 2009, 09:25 PM   #60
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Maybe they should bring back the Sphere Builders, or do a movie on nuFederation's first contact with the Borg.
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