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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Khan in the sequel?
YES 16 13.91%
NO 99 86.09%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

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Old May 14 2009, 01:51 PM   #136
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Re: Khan in ST XII - Yes or No?

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We should make this post sticky, print it out, and mail it to Orci and Kurtman.
Well, I must say that this thread is achieving desired effect!
Pro Khan = 0, contra = 23 so far!
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Old May 14 2009, 02:06 PM   #137
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Mach5 wrote: View Post
urbandk wrote: View Post
We should make this post sticky, print it out, and mail it to Orci and Kurtman.
Well, I must say that this thread is achieving desired effect!
Pro Khan = 0, contra = 23 so far!
26 to 0 now! This is better than the Rotten Tomatoes thread.
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Old May 14 2009, 02:49 PM   #138
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Re: Khan in ST XII - Yes or No?

Someone should send Kevin Smith the memo about this.
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Old May 14 2009, 03:12 PM   #139
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NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
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Old May 14 2009, 03:18 PM   #140
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No Khan. SOME Klingons...but please don't make the movie ABOUT them. It needs something else to be the main threat to keep it fresh.
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Old May 14 2009, 03:24 PM   #141
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i wanna rephrase this and echo an earlier poster. i'm sure orci and kurtzman could write a good khan script. i'm sure abrams could produce and/or direct a good khan movie, but please, don't waste your talents on khan. if anyone ever reads this, i know you're up to the challenge. star trek is bigger than kirk and khan. seriously.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:23 PM   #142
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I was beginning to think 100% anti-Khan was unrealistic...
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Old May 15 2009, 04:26 PM   #143
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Khan? Been there, done that.

Next.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:31 PM   #144
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Well Khan seems to be going down in flames for the sequel...

What of a big screen variant of WNMHGB with Gary Mitchell as the big bad... We've already seen Delta Vega.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:32 PM   #145
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No. I would like to see new stories and new villains. I was never a huge fan of Khan anyway. One movie with him as a villain was enough for me.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:48 PM   #146
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Well Khan seems to be going down in flames for the sequel...

What of a big screen variant of WNMHGB with Gary Mitchell as the big bad... We've already seen Delta Vega.
NOT another "Big baddie" with personal connections to Kirk or Spock. The universe is NOT that small. Do some friggin' exploring of "strange NEW worlds", "seek out NEW life and NEW civilizations", "boldly go where NO ONE/MAN has gone before" for cryin' out loud.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:50 PM   #147
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No.
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Old May 15 2009, 04:56 PM   #148
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Well Khan seems to be going down in flames for the sequel...

What of a big screen variant of WNMHGB with Gary Mitchell as the big bad... We've already seen Delta Vega.
NOT another "Big baddie" with personal connections to Kirk or Spock. The universe is NOT that small. Do some friggin' exploring of "strange NEW worlds", "seek out NEW life and NEW civilizations", "boldly go where NO ONE/MAN has gone before" for cryin' out loud.
True. They do have a whole five year mission ahead of them, and I'd love to see something truly original myself, but I can't help think of the dozen or so TOS episodes that would make excellent fodder for a feature film.
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Old May 15 2009, 05:01 PM   #149
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NOT another "Big baddie" with personal connections to Kirk or Spock. The universe is NOT that small. Do some friggin' exploring of "strange NEW worlds", "seek out NEW life and NEW civilizations", "boldly go where NO ONE/MAN has gone before" for cryin' out loud.
I agree, but it won't happen. This is what I've said in numerous posts around here. The success of the current film -- and I'm a fan of the current film, don't get me wrong -- means that we are never going to see those kinds of stories you speak of again, or at least not for a long time.

Paramount has taken the standard Hollywood view that audiences won't be interested in a film about exploration, seeking out new worlds, boldy going, and all that. Instead, it has to be action, action, action and nothing else. Sure, you might be able slip a good character moment in here and there. But an actual plot that's about something other than fighting the baddie? They don't think that will work. And the mega-success of this film will only serve to reinforce that view to them.

Look at the first six Trek films. We actually got quite a variety there. We did have action/adventure with Khan. But we also had 'high concept sci-fi' with TMP, comedy with TVH, rather intimate character drama with TSFS, and so on. But starting somewhere around the time of Generations, the idea that you could tell a variety of stories all under the banner of Star Trek was jettisoned.

No, I don't expect to see much exploring from this new series of films, except perhaps as a very brief set up for finding a new bad guy to fire big guns at.
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Old May 15 2009, 05:02 PM   #150
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Would the two posters who voted "YES" mind explaining their choice?
I'm honestly quite curious.
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