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Old June 8 2009, 07:34 PM   #1
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End of the 24th Century...

Placing the Star Trek 'verse (not neutrek) in the 'modern' traditional time line... I am referring to the end of the TNG movies, Voyager and DS9 histories... what classes of ships are still in service with StarFleet?

(the talk of the Galaxy class failure thread got me thinking about what classes of ships does StarFleet 'currently have in service)
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Old June 8 2009, 07:40 PM   #2
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

Pretty much everything except the Constitution and Soyuz. The Federation never scraps anything.
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Old June 8 2009, 07:43 PM   #3
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

Somehow I doubt the Deadulous(sp) class is still in service. lol But is that pre-StarFleet now that I think about it?
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Old June 8 2009, 08:26 PM   #4
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

Based on the Mirandas and Excelsiors, I'd say there's about a 100 year shelf life for ships. It's possible that some were brought out of mothballs to fight in the Dominion War, but you see Oberths and Excelsiors in TNG, so that's not the case.
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Old June 8 2009, 09:01 PM   #5
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

I imagine that the Excelsiors, Oberths, and Mirandas are probably being phased out, or are phased out, by the end of the Dominion War. (Probably as much from being shot down as anything else.)

There never seemed to be all that many Ambassador-class ships in the first place.

I would assume that most of the "kitbashes" we saw in DS9 were being retired after the end of the Dominion War, especially those with 23rd Century-era components.

There are definitely still:
  • Galaxy
  • Defiant
  • Intrepid
  • Nebula
  • Akira
  • Danube (Runabouts)
  • Norway
  • Nova
  • Olympic
  • Prometheus
  • Saber
  • Sovereign
  • Steamrunner

If we include the novels, we also have:
  • Centaur (Articles of the Federation)
  • Luna (Star Trek: Titan)
  • Vesta (Star Trek: Destiny)
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Old June 8 2009, 11:01 PM   #6
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

If I remember correctly, past a certain point in DS9 we never see Oberths again. Which is a good thing, as it is the most ridiculously weak vessel that I can think of in Trek. With ONE torpedo, it can be destroyed with full shields when the enemy was specifically trying to not destroy it.

Sci seems right on the mark about what we can say for sure is still in active service.
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Old June 9 2009, 12:44 PM   #7
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

Ambassador, too. It's just that the filming model was severely damaged in a studio accident and didn't get the on-screen representation it otherwise might have had.
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Old June 9 2009, 12:54 PM   #8
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Ambassador, too. It's just that the filming model was severely damaged in a studio accident and didn't get the on-screen representation it otherwise might have had.
A pitty too, I rather liked the design (even if it was probably a kitbash lol)
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Old June 9 2009, 01:20 PM   #9
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

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Ambassador, too. It's just that the filming model was severely damaged in a studio accident and didn't get the on-screen representation it otherwise might have had.
I was wondering about that, as you never seem to see them.
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Old June 10 2009, 03:05 AM   #10
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Re: End of the 24th Century...

Sci wrote: View Post
I imagine that the Excelsiors, Oberths, and Mirandas are probably being phased out, or are phased out, by the end of the Dominion War. (Probably as much from being shot down as anything else.)

There never seemed to be all that many Ambassador-class ships in the first place.

I would assume that most of the "kitbashes" we saw in DS9 were being retired after the end of the Dominion War, especially those with 23rd Century-era components.

There are definitely still:
  • Galaxy
  • Defiant
  • Intrepid
  • Nebula
  • Akira
  • Danube (Runabouts)
  • Norway
  • Nova
  • Olympic
  • Prometheus
  • Saber
  • Sovereign
  • Steamrunner

If we include the novels, we also have:
  • Centaur (Articles of the Federation)
  • Luna (Star Trek: Titan)
  • Vesta (Star Trek: Destiny)
That seems about right. Any of the other non-canon older "background ship" designs have probably been retired too, but if it's close to TNG-level tech, it's probably still in service.

(I didn't know the Centaur class was possibly still in service. I think I'd prefer it were retired, personally. )

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Ambassador, too. It's just that the filming model was severely damaged in a studio accident and didn't get the on-screen representation it otherwise might have had.
It's been my take that the Galaxy class actually succeeded the Ambassador, which is why we don't see many of them. It's been speculated the earliest Ambassadors were launched in the 2320s-2330s, and since we more or less know there weren't very many Galaxys built, there probably weren't many Ambassadors built either, and most of those remaining were probably retired as Galaxys came online to replace them.
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