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Old January 14 2010, 06:22 PM   #301
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Re: WIP - TMP Enterprise, deck by deck

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I will probably never be happy with it. It's such a sculpted shape that finding the metrics to generate it is going to give me fits for quite a while.
Um, extrude down with a reverse draft angle? Then subtract the saucer profile out of it and there you go.
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Old January 15 2010, 03:20 PM   #302
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Do the newer versions of AutoCAD have "metaball" capabilities to allow you to basically sculpt a shape from simpler primitives?
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Old January 15 2010, 03:41 PM   #303
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^^ about the only changes to recent versions of AutoCAD have been upgrading the 3d modeling aspect further and further. the 2010 version again jumps the UI closer to what you see in all the current 3d modeling programs, and adds a much higher level of control over both the objects you create and the way they are governed.

i did a trial run with v2010, but it really bogged down my system. so im stayin with '08.
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Old January 15 2010, 10:00 PM   #304
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What's 09 like?
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Old January 16 2010, 11:00 PM   #305
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^ i cant say, never tried it
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Old January 17 2010, 07:33 PM   #306
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i'm curious (since as of today, i am once again disturbing the waters and wading in over my head into my own Refit model) what scale are you working at?
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Old January 17 2010, 07:49 PM   #307
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Full Scale. In CAD, why not? (for ref. corridors are i.v.o 2m high - yes, I work in Metric).
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Old January 17 2010, 10:06 PM   #308
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^Yup. In CAD, two meters is no more memory-intensive or disk-intensive than two millimeters. They're just double-precision, floating-point numbers.
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Old January 17 2010, 10:14 PM   #309
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Anystar and CTM ....you guys....are like the Detail Dynamic DUO....
just unbelievable the work you do.
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Old January 17 2010, 10:16 PM   #310
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true, but i have modeled the refit in different versions, and i have different standards depending.

sometimes i've modeled to replicate the filming miniature, others to create a full starship speculation. when i model in full size i tend to be quite flexible in allowing for moving or re-sizing certain portions to better represent what the interior components need for fit/placement. my model replications i tend to make no allowances whatsoever, and try to be as precise to the model as possible
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Old January 18 2010, 02:03 AM   #311
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My purpose for this wasn't to replicate the filming model, but to theorize what a real ship might be like.

Next version, however, I will take a great deal of lessons learned and will be MUCH better in both aspects.

Of course, I have some intermediary projects before I plan to try the next version of this one (Locknar, Excelsior, perhaps a Miranda...)
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Old January 18 2010, 12:47 PM   #312
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At about a year a model, you may be redoing it in retirement.
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Old January 18 2010, 02:31 PM   #313
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Really nice work here. Kudos on your progress!
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Old January 18 2010, 04:38 PM   #314
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Truth be told, I figure a couple of years per model... and I should be so lucky. I figure I have several more decades before retirement. I would love to be able to retire early and do this sort of thing for a living, but I love my regular job too (I find that most Engineers tend to do for fun what they do for a living, or the converse, do for a living what they do for fun).
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Old January 18 2010, 04:56 PM   #315
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^^^ Especially if you ever try to tackle an Excelsior or, even more large, a Galaxy class, two years at least!
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