what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution?

JamesSmith · June 10 2009, 06:49 AM

what if a group of humans traveled from the future stole a stardrive section from the USS Constitution before her shakedown cruise and transported it to the 24th century? What will the timeline and the Federation be like? Oops, I posted it in the wrong section, it should be in the general discussion section.

Gep Malakai · June 10 2009, 07:13 AM

And what if it were capable of landing on planets with a pink deflector dish?

nx1701g · June 10 2009, 07:17 AM

Well considering that the Stardrive from a previous era were transported to a future one probably not much except a bit longer to construct a replacement. Most likely though the Enterprise was already under construction (if Constitution was 1700) so they may have just moved her stardrive to the Constitution or launched Enterprise earlier as the testbed.

JamesSmith · June 10 2009, 07:18 AM

no, it's different this time.

nx1701g · June 10 2009, 07:49 AM

It's not inconceivable that the technologies of the two eras are any different from one another. Despite all the advancements made by the Federation between the time Nero appeared and the launch of the Enterprise the Enterprise was still nearly destroyed in the first volley just as the Kelvin was. Since the Narada was from the 24th Century again probably nothing.

enan · June 10 2009, 08:56 AM

Bringing something forward in time does not affect the future, it is like the P-38 Lightning from WW2 that was found under the ice in Greenland, after suddenly appearing 50 years later airplanes today are no different.

Now if you take the Sovereign class USS Enterprise back in time; you will change the past. Give that same P-38 to Orville Wright and who knows how aircraft will be.

Also Starships don't just appear; they take years of R&D, Leah Brahms when through how many design changes before she got it right.

TigerOfDarkness · June 10 2009, 12:56 PM

The effect on the past technology would probably be small - the Consitiution would be delayed but the knowledge of how to build a star drive section would not be lost.

The future would thus probably still have warp drive and technology could have developed along very similar lines, so they would regard the Constitution's star drive as a museum exhibit.

What the effect on society and the attitudes of the 23rd centuary people would be is rather hard to say. Do the thieves make it clear they are from the 24th centuary?

Sci · June 10 2009, 06:24 PM

What will happen if a group of Humans steal the Federation Constitution?

They'll find the secret map to buried treasure, of course! Didn't you see the Nicholas Cage movie Federation Treasure?

June 10 2009, 06:49 AM	#1
JamesSmith Lieutenant Commander	what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? what if a group of humans traveled from the future stole a stardrive section from the USS Constitution before her shakedown cruise and transported it to the 24th century? What will the timeline and the Federation be like? Oops, I posted it in the wrong section, it should be in the general discussion section.

June 10 2009, 07:13 AM	#2
Gep Malakai Vice Admiral	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? And what if it were capable of landing on planets with a pink deflector dish? __________________ "From the darkness you must fall, failed and weak, to darkness all." -Kataris

June 10 2009, 07:17 AM	#3
nx1701g Admiral Location: Aboard the Executor...	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? Well considering that the Stardrive from a previous era were transported to a future one probably not much except a bit longer to construct a replacement. Most likely though the Enterprise was already under construction (if Constitution was 1700) so they may have just moved her stardrive to the Constitution or launched Enterprise earlier as the testbed. __________________ Star Trek: The Continuing Voyages RPG - Recruiting New Players! The Terminator Chronicles - The Sarah Connor Chronicles Continue! Not Dead Yet.

June 10 2009, 07:18 AM	#4
JamesSmith Lieutenant Commander	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? no, it's different this time.

June 10 2009, 07:49 AM	#5
nx1701g Admiral Location: Aboard the Executor...	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? It's not inconceivable that the technologies of the two eras are any different from one another. Despite all the advancements made by the Federation between the time Nero appeared and the launch of the Enterprise the Enterprise was still nearly destroyed in the first volley just as the Kelvin was. Since the Narada was from the 24th Century again probably nothing. __________________ Star Trek: The Continuing Voyages RPG - Recruiting New Players! The Terminator Chronicles - The Sarah Connor Chronicles Continue! Not Dead Yet.

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June 10 2009, 08:56 AM	#6
enan Lieutenant Commander Location: Strutevant, WI USA	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? Bringing something forward in time does not affect the future, it is like the P-38 Lightning from WW2 that was found under the ice in Greenland, after suddenly appearing 50 years later airplanes today are no different. Now if you take the Sovereign class USS Enterprise back in time; you will change the past. Give that same P-38 to Orville Wright and who knows how aircraft will be. Also Starships don't just appear; they take years of R&D, Leah Brahms when through how many design changes before she got it right. __________________ 4th Massachuettes Regiment of the Continental Line.

June 10 2009, 12:56 PM	#7
TigerOfDarkness Fleet Captain Location: UK	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? The effect on the past technology would probably be small - the Consitiution would be delayed but the knowledge of how to build a star drive section would not be lost. The future would thus probably still have warp drive and technology could have developed along very similar lines, so they would regard the Constitution's star drive as a museum exhibit. What the effect on society and the attitudes of the 23rd centuary people would be is rather hard to say. Do the thieves make it clear they are from the 24th centuary? __________________ If we don't get off this planet we'll all die here.

June 10 2009, 06:24 PM	#8
Sci Admiral Location: The Red Flag: May Day 2013	Re: what will happen if the group of humans stole the Constitution? What will happen if a group of Humans steal the Federation Constitution? They'll find the secret map to buried treasure, of course! Didn't you see the Nicholas Cage movie Federation Treasure? __________________ This dream must end, this world must know: We all depend on the beast below.