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Old May 11 2009, 06:41 PM   #61
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Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

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Not a jab at all. Rather a cute little homage. I think Enterprise fans should be happy about that. I know I am.
Agreed. It's a wink like "I'm a doctor, not a ..." and "Wictor, Wictor" and "Captain, the engines can't take the strain."
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Old May 11 2009, 09:37 PM   #62
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Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

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Not a jab at all. Rather a cute little homage. I think Enterprise fans should be happy about that. I know I am.
Besides, it wasn't Porthos that got killed in Scotty's accident. Porthos probably died soon after the Federation Charter got signed or not too long after that period. Archer's dog in the early 23rd century was probably his third, fourth or fifth.
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Old May 11 2009, 11:07 PM   #63
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

The writer's interview and the info in Scotty's dossier on the website imply that it wasn't even Jonathan Archer, but just someone by the same name, possibly related (hence "in next generation").
I still prefer to think it's our Archer, though. I think it was a cute, funny little nod.
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Old May 11 2009, 11:09 PM   #64
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

"IaMD" teased us to think Archer lived until this period in history so I'll just assume it WAS our hero unless told otherwise by the canonites.
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Old May 11 2009, 11:26 PM   #65
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

Acoording to IaMD, Archer lived until 2245 (The launch date of th Enterprise). Scotty was born in 2222, so it is possible that it's the same Archer. (Or Porthos VII became starfleet's mascotte after Archer's death)
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

True, even Simon Pegg's Scotty is in his mid-thirties in this timeline and that's plenty of time for him to have caused/been blamed for the transporter accident earlier in his career...in the 2240s before Archer might have died.
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Old May 12 2009, 12:35 AM   #67
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

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Acoording to IaMD, Archer lived until 2245 (The launch date of th Enterprise). Scotty was born in 2222, so it is possible that it's the same Archer. (Or Porthos VII became starfleet's mascotte after Archer's death)
All hail new canon. Thanks for verifying that for us.
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Old May 12 2009, 06:26 AM   #68
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Re: ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

the incident happened since kirk was at the academy since kirk remember the dog.
and since scotty had been there for i think 6 months it happened possibly about a year to six months before.
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Old May 12 2009, 03:17 PM   #69
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Archer's dog reference (Trek XI SPOILERS!)

What happened to the ill-fated subject of Scotty's first trans-warp transport experiment? Where did Porthos the XI reappear? Will the next movie be Star Trek: The Search for Porthos, or just an adaptation of Voyage of the Space Beagle?
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Old May 12 2009, 04:43 PM   #70
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Re: Archer's dog reference (Trek XI SPOILERS!)

Maybe you want the "spoilers" piece in your title.

With that said, I'm sure his wife, Ambassador T'Pol, got him a new puppy.
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Old May 12 2009, 04:54 PM   #71
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Re: Archer's dog reference (Trek XI SPOILERS!)

Seems unlikely it was Porthos, what with it being just over 100 years later (in the new timeline, closer to 110-115?). Assuming Archer was in his 30s for ENT, even him at 145 or so is a stretch. Doggie years would be even more unkind...
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Old May 12 2009, 05:02 PM   #72
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Re: So where did Admiral Archer's beagle end up?

McCoy lived about that long. Why not Archer? Besides, we don't know what happened between TATV and STXI. Maybe Archer had something happen that youthened him. More over, he might get a little mind activity boost with Surak's katra still embedded in his noggin. Furthermore, since TOS is de-canonized and they found Archer's age on the Defiant, I'm assuming that's not necessarily canon.

And I'm assuming the dog isn't Porthos After all, Scotty never said, "Porthos," he said "prized Beagle."

Why are folks so set again this being a Captain Jonathan Archer reference?
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Old May 12 2009, 05:12 PM   #73
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Re: So where did Admiral Archer's beagle end up?

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What happened to the ill-fated subject of Scotty's first trans-warp transport experiment? Where did Porthos the XI reappear? Will the next movie be Star Trek: The Search for Porthos, or just an adaptation of Voyage of the Space Beagle?
That's too funny!

I think Porthos is hanging out with Quinn Erickson of Daedalus fame.
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Old May 12 2009, 05:17 PM   #74
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Re: So where did Admiral Archer's beagle end up?

Porthos ended up in a Dyson sphere.

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Old May 12 2009, 05:29 PM   #75
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Re: So where did Admiral Archer's beagle end up?

Mirror Universe. Where it was hastily devoured by Commander Archer's big, mean dog.
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