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Old May 13 2009, 04:48 AM   #1
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ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

Who's bright Idea was it at paramount to add T&A on ENTERPRISE? did they really think that was going to get people to watch? I myself was a tad turned off by it all. I mean, I know the saying SEX SELLS! but aparently nobody got the memo with Enterprise. So, what do you think? should ENT have had more or less skin? should TPTB even botherd with that? Was it just a desperate attempt at fast ratings?
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Old May 13 2009, 05:18 AM   #2
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

I had no ploblems with what I saw on my DVDs (didn't see Enterprise during it's first run). I thought it all worked well.
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Old May 13 2009, 09:40 AM   #3
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

Catsuits may have been silly, but I got nothing against some T&A from now and then.
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Old May 13 2009, 09:52 AM   #4
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

I tend to be conservative in many of my views, and no, I didn't think there was an excessive amounts of skin, T & A on ENT.
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Old May 13 2009, 12:47 PM   #5
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

It was an integral part of ENT from the start, so I have no idea what you mean when you say they added it.
Maybe you're referring to T'Pol's scene with Trip? If so, I think it was high time modern Trek became less prudish. Sexuality is a normal part of life and therefore should be a part of drama, too. HBO series are usually overdoing it, but they could have done a bit more with it on ENT, I think. Overall, it was ok. The catsuit, however, was sort of stupid.
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Old May 13 2009, 01:12 PM   #6
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

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Who's bright Idea was it at paramount to add T&A on ENTERPRISE? did they really think that was going to get people to watch? I myself was a tad turned off by it all. I mean, I know the saying SEX SELLS! but aparently nobody got the memo with Enterprise. So, what do you think? should ENT have had more or less skin? should TPTB even botherd with that? Was it just a desperate attempt at fast ratings?
I'll admit I thought the same thing the first time I saw Enterprise, but then I realized that it is no different than the original series. Yeomen in miniskirts and Kirk without his shirt every other episode. Maybe this is one of they ways they were trying to be more like TOS than TNG.
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Old May 13 2009, 03:44 PM   #7
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It was no different from the amount of T & A in the original series, so it didn't really bother me.
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Old May 13 2009, 05:33 PM   #8
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

I would have gone along with a different Uniform for T-Pol than that Catsuit. It could have been a little tight across the butt and around the Bust but not too much.

Season four when t-Pol joined Star fleet she should have worn a Star Fleet Uniform.

Jolene was beautiful enough to give Ent al of the Sex it needed. Hell Hoshi had her own brand of sexuality.

No T&A just for the sake of T&A.

Of course, in two Days and Two nights they could have had T-Pol go to the surface and go swimming in a brief Bikini.
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Old May 13 2009, 06:06 PM   #9
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

Miraclefan, yeah, I think at times the writers thought they could shortcut things by providing T&A as if we wouldn't notice flaws.

I have nothing against T&A, but think having a well-constructed story with interesting characters are much more important. I wish the writers did, too.
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Old May 13 2009, 06:21 PM   #10
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

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Of course, in two Days and Two nights they could have had T-Pol go to the surface and go swimming in a brief Bikini.
While I agree with your sentiment , I just could not picture that happening.
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Old May 13 2009, 09:20 PM   #11
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Middleman, neither can I but it sure conjurs up some daydrams.

I once invisioned Trip and T-Pol on a beach. t-Pol first comes out Nude and trips tells her that she has to put on a swim suit, then t-Poll comes out in a Gay 90's Swim suit tha goes fron the neck down the the ankles.
Trip racts violently. Finally t-Pol comes out in a bikini and Trip grins like an idiot.

I do fatanzie at night.
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Old May 15 2009, 11:07 PM   #12
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

T & A has always been part of Star Trek.
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Old May 16 2009, 02:29 AM   #13
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

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It was an integral part of ENT from the start, so I have no idea what you mean when you say they added it.
Maybe you're referring to T'Pol's scene with Trip? If so, I think it was high time modern Trek became less prudish. Sexuality is a normal part of life and therefore should be a part of drama, too.
While I agree with the sentiment, the problem is that the de-con scene in the pilot was completely asexual while trying to be sexual. It was two sexually attractive people in their undies rubbing gel all over each other while having a sober conversation about politics and the psychology of a third party. It was ridiculous.

If they were trying to sexualise Trek then they'd get no complaint from me, but they were just just throwing T&A into a regular exposition scene and the whole thing was pathetic.
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Old May 16 2009, 02:37 AM   #14
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

Like the catsuit the decon scenes were just silly. While showing the difference to later Trek with its bio-filters was a good idea, the decon chamber was just introduced for gratuitous T&A.
I should stop thinking too much about ENT, though, otherwise it loses a lot of its appeal to me.
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Old May 16 2009, 05:14 AM   #15
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Re: ENTERPRISE, and T & A.

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It was an integral part of ENT from the start, so I have no idea what you mean when you say they added it.
Maybe you're referring to T'Pol's scene with Trip? If so, I think it was high time modern Trek became less prudish. Sexuality is a normal part of life and therefore should be a part of drama, too.
While I agree with the sentiment, the problem is that the de-con scene in the pilot was completely asexual while trying to be sexual. It was two sexually attractive people in their undies rubbing gel all over each other while having a sober conversation about politics and the psychology of a third party. It was ridiculous.

If they were trying to sexualise Trek then they'd get no complaint from me, but they were just just throwing T&A into a regular exposition scene and the whole thing was pathetic.
I agree 100%. Nicely worded.
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