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Old May 7 2009, 03:30 PM   #31
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Re: Lost 5x15: "Follow the Leader"

do you guys think at any point The Others with Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawkings at the helm summoned Cerberus to move Jughead to the tunnel? That part where Richard explains to Jack that they didn't move the bomb thru the water, by some other means.
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Old May 7 2009, 03:48 PM   #32
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Excellent episode; however, I was disappointed Kate wasn't killed.
Yeesh. Between this show and Smallville, it makes me thankful that I at least pick the popular ladies in Joss Whedon's various series. But, as for feminine characters like Lana Lang or Kate Austen, siding with them appears to leave me out in the cold....
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Old May 7 2009, 03:52 PM   #33
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Excellent episode; however, I was disappointed Kate wasn't killed.
Yeesh. Between this show and Smallville, it makes me thankful that I at least pick the popular ladies in Joss Whedon's various series. But, as for feminine characters like Lana Lang or Kate Austen, siding with them appears to leave me out in the cold....
I can't stand Kate. She never follows instructions, she's bullheaded, and quite honestly, were I Jack or Sawyer, I'd have backhanded her a long time ago. Any time she declares she's going to do things her way, she makes the situation worse and has to be rescued.
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Old May 7 2009, 04:20 PM   #34
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Excellent episode; however, I was disappointed Kate wasn't killed.
Yeesh. Between this show and Smallville, it makes me thankful that I at least pick the popular ladies in Joss Whedon's various series. But, as for feminine characters like Lana Lang or Kate Austen, siding with them appears to leave me out in the cold....
I can't stand Kate. She never follows instructions, she's bullheaded, and quite honestly, were I Jack or Sawyer, I'd have backhanded her a long time ago. Any time she declares she's going to do things her way, she makes the situation worse and has to be rescued.
Like I said....

I thought she was right to react the way she did towards Jack's plan. Despite the chance that what he has in mind might actually work, the consequences if it doesn't are monumental. Kate understood that. Of course, she'll end up back by his side in the end but, at least for now, she's made what to her is the only rational choice available. I can't fault her for that.
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Old May 7 2009, 04:34 PM   #35
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Wait, so Richard tells Sun "I watched them die".....and *then* what? She doesn't ask "How did they die?" or say "Give me all the details on what happened to them"???? What the heck? Are we supposed to assume that she did ask that, and he said "I can't tell you" or something like that, and that all happened offscreen? I don't know. It seems like a cheap way for them to string us along on that. Nothing about that scene really made sense.
You're absolutely right but that's LOST for you. It's been their MO from day 1.

A lot of the show's tension would be dismissed so easily if everyone asked a series of direct questions and got direct answers. But where's the fun in that?
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Old May 7 2009, 05:39 PM   #36
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Definitely an Excellent.

So how radioactive is that cavern they've kept the bomb in? Think Richard would be watching them die in the next few minutes?

Am I remembering right in that the bomb is supposed to blow up the Swan area? And if that happens the Island will be flattened and uninhabitable for a couple hundred years? Think the Island will allow that?

I do think Locke will answer Jacobs plea and kill him (release him from whatever state he is trapped in).

And I love how we got a mundane answer to why the others aren't affected by the fence.
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Old May 7 2009, 05:41 PM   #37
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Above average. All set up, and the payoff is next week!
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Old May 7 2009, 05:48 PM   #38
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I think Juliet is going to bite it, it seems like they are setting up another death. I mean, her and Saywer are perfect for each other, they just want off the island and to live a life. I just have this fear that they are going to kill Juliet so there will be angst between Saywer and Kate.
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Old May 7 2009, 07:12 PM   #39
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A lot of the show's tension would be dismissed so easily if everyone asked a series of direct questions and got direct answers. But where's the fun in that?
The point is, you don't have the character say "I watched them all die" in the first place, unless you have a logical reason why Sun doesn't act the obvious question when she is clearly around him for a few hours later. Sun has to become stupid to serve the plot. That's a flaw in the writing.
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Old May 7 2009, 07:13 PM   #40
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Another Average - I dunno, there's something that feels a little "off" lately. Or maybe they are doing too much of the same stuff lately and I'm ready for some BIG change.

But Sawyer and Juliet's scenes were great and I loved Dr. Chang's demonstration of how easy it is to unmask time travelers.

Is the season finale next week? I've been wondering what they could do to top previous seasons. Now it's obvious: they'll kill off the entire cast.

S6 should be interesting.
I thought she was right to react the way she did towards Jack's plan. Despite the chance that what he has in mind might actually work, the consequences if it doesn't are monumental. Kate understood that.
The odd thing is that neither of them have any rational reason to believe that Jack's plan can work. They don't know how time travel works - is it all predestination or not? If Jack is right that the past can be changed, their memories will be wiped out and they'll never realize it worked. All they have are Daniel's assumptions about the nature of the cosmos, but how can you prove it one way or the other? Nobody can observe the "experiment" from the outside because everyone is inside the experiment. Plus Daniel's death seemed to confirm the predestination theory (though nothing can 100% confirm it).

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Old May 7 2009, 07:54 PM   #41
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A lot of the show's tension would be dismissed so easily if everyone asked a series of direct questions and got direct answers. But where's the fun in that?
The point is, you don't have the character say "I watched them all die" in the first place, unless you have a logical reason why Sun doesn't act the obvious question when she is clearly around him for a few hours later. Sun has to become stupid to serve the plot. That's a flaw in the writing.
Oh, I agree. I was merely making a phunny.

Honestly, I find some of the mystery scenes in LOST to be written with too much of a "slight of hand," where we are constantly teased out and never directly told anything. Much like in a Soap Opera scene, where the conversation is broken up and interrupted several times to play out the dilemma even longer.

While I love the show, I often wish that whenever a question is brought up
there would be a direct answer that leads into another larger question or problem -- like a truly well-crafted mystery.
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Old May 7 2009, 09:56 PM   #42
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^^^^Still a great show. I was debating to myself, however, who had the better funbags. Young Eloise or Juliet?

What? The fact that I'm bringing this up shows I have nothing bad to say about this episode.

Wait. I loved Locke as the leader. Still humble, but with a tiny touch of smugness. He's loving it. And poor Ben looked so emasculated. You think Locke already knows that he and Richard might be plotting against him?
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Another excellent episode, but this is all I have to really say:

SUBTERRANEAN CONDUITS FINALLY!

This time for real.
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Old May 8 2009, 01:07 AM   #44
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Amen. But Dharma had their own underground subway tunnels as well. Obviously they're unaware of the Native tunnels (in 1974, anyway) so they haven't co-opted them but built their own.
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Next up: Giant hamsters running the power generators.
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