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Old February 19 2011, 03:22 AM   #691
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I shall hear no more lies about the loverly Kat Dennings. I'll take you on one at a time or all at once to defend her honor.

Mmm. . . Natalie and Kat. . . together at last.
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Old February 19 2011, 08:36 AM   #692
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I like what I've seen so far. I don't expect it to be as epically boring as The Dark Knight at any rate.
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Old February 19 2011, 05:26 PM   #693
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Could those complaining about Hemsworth's accent enlighten me as to how someone from the fictional & fantastical world of Asgard is supposed to sound?
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Old February 19 2011, 05:56 PM   #694
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Could those complaining about Hemsworth's accent enlighten me as to how someone from the fictional & fantastical world of Asgard is supposed to sound?
Not like an Australian trying and failing to do an English accent (which is quite obviously what they're using for Asgard - as is often the case in films dealing with fantasy worlds and ancient times - given what we've heard of Anthony Hopkins and Tom Hiddleston).
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Old February 19 2011, 06:59 PM   #695
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Maybe Thor spent his childhood with Trolls, which skewed his accent a bit.
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Old February 19 2011, 07:00 PM   #696
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Maybe Thor spent his childhood with Trolls, which skewed his accent a bit.
Or he went to boarding school in Australia.
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Old February 19 2011, 07:07 PM   #697
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I remember reading at some point that the Asgardians will have a language or dialect of their own, though I'm not sure how that would be worked into the movie exactly. Anyway, Hemsworth sounds good to me from what we've heard, though I'm willing to defer to Kenneth Branagh where the nuances of the accent are concerned
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Old February 19 2011, 08:55 PM   #698
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I remember reading at some point that the Asgardians will have a language or dialect of their own, though I'm not sure how that would be worked into the movie exactly.
When we hear them speak, it's English, but when human characters in the movie hear them, it's their native language?
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Old February 19 2011, 09:54 PM   #699
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Could those complaining about Hemsworth's accent enlighten me as to how someone from the fictional & fantastical world of Asgard is supposed to sound?
Not like an Australian trying and failing to do an English accent (which is quite obviously what they're using for Asgard - as is often the case in films dealing with fantasy worlds and ancient times - given what we've heard of Anthony Hopkins and Tom Hiddleston).
Thanks to the influence of Australian soap operas, many young English people sound Australian now anyway - the raised inflection at the end of a sentence? That sounds like a question?
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Old February 19 2011, 10:05 PM   #700
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When we hear them speak, it's English, but when human characters in the movie hear them, it's their native language?
I dunno, could be I guess. Or maybe the Asgardians have some way of making themselves understood, whether or not the listener speaks their language (but maybe it doesn't come across as very idiomatic in translation). One of Thor's traits in the comics is his odd and generally rather flowery speech pattern, which writers have done various things with over the years. So, logically, the movie will probably do something with this as well.

Just as a guess, I expect some of the early scenes in Asgard will establish what the Asgardian language actually sounds like (probably vaguely nordic or scandinavian), along with whatever conceit allows us (and the characters on earth) to understand them throughout the rest of the movie.

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Old February 19 2011, 10:18 PM   #701
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Thanks to the influence of Australian soap operas, many young English people sound Australian now anyway - the raised inflection at the end of a sentence? That sounds like a question?
There presumably aren't Australian soaps in Asgard, though, and the accent Hemsworth is doing doesn't match those of Hopkins and Hiddleston particularly well. I'm not saying it's a dealbreaker, but from the evidence so far Hemsworth's ability with accents is more Worthington than Jackman.
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Old February 19 2011, 11:33 PM   #702
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Troll soap operas?
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Old February 20 2011, 07:36 AM   #703
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Could those complaining about Hemsworth's accent enlighten me as to how someone from the fictional & fantastical world of Asgard is supposed to sound?
Not so distractingly silly that one doesn't pay attention to whatever he's saying.

I don't give a fuck whether he's supposed to be from Asgard or Jersey or what he's "supposed to" sound like. The accent sounds stupid and annoying.

Enlightened?
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Old February 20 2011, 12:47 PM   #704
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One thing that's a constant in this universe is the bitching of SF fans when details are not 100% correct or according to their views and tastes I don't give a fuck about Hemsworth's supposedly bad accent or that some effects seem not to be done correctly (which i disagree personally).

This will not be Shakespeare, Schindler's List or some (deserving) Oscar movie.. it will be an Action Adventure summer blockbuster movie and should be treated as such. If you put such movies under a microscope you are bound to notice flaws and mistakes but doing this from a few minutes of released trailers is the height of arrogance and self-righteousness.

It seems many people have lost that ability to just lean back, pay for overpriced junk food and tickets and wait for the lights to go out and enjoý themselves for two hours.
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One thing that's a constant in this universe is the bitching of SF fans when details are not 100% correct or according to their views and tastes I don't give a fuck about Hemsworth's supposedly bad accent or that some effects seem not to be done correctly (which i disagree personally).

This will not be Shakespeare, Schindler's List or some (deserving) Oscar movie.. it will be an Action Adventure summer blockbuster movie and should be treated as such. If you put such movies under a microscope you are bound to notice flaws and mistakes but doing this from a few minutes of released trailers is the height of arrogance and self-righteousness.

It seems many people have lost that ability to just lean back, pay for overpriced junk food and tickets and wait for the lights to go out and enjoý themselves for two hours.
The height of arrogance and self-righteousness? Well, as long as you're open to discussion and different points of view, eh?

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that one should simply accept anything that's thrown at you with your critical faculties turned off as long as a film is light entertainment. Frankly, I think that's a bit insulting to those filmmakers who put a great deal of care, attention and skill into light entertainment films. Why should they bother if such films aren't to be given their due and judged at such a low bar? Do some SFF fans get overly nitpicky? Sure. But you're going too far in the other direction in attempting to shut down all critical comments.

I expect Thor will at least rise to the level of a reasonably enjoyable movie in a Saturday matinee level way, and if it rises higher than that it'll be a nice surprise, but for now all we have to evaluate are the trailers and people are giving their thoughts - pro and con - on them. Of course a film can turn out better or worse than its trailers indicate and that has to be borne in mind.
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