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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
Excellent 706 62.70%
Above Average 213 18.92%
Average 84 7.46%
Below Average 46 4.09%
Poor 77 6.84%
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Old May 9 2009, 07:22 PM   #991
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How does a giant brewer feel "realistic" for an engine room for a FTL starship?

It just didn't work for me when Kirk is running past huge vats of something.
You do know what the Enterprise uses to power her warp-drive, don't you?

Water.
That's funny, I thought it used deuterium.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:24 PM   #992
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How does a giant brewer feel "realistic" for an engine room for a FTL starship?

It just didn't work for me when Kirk is running past huge vats of something.
You do know what the Enterprise uses to power her warp-drive, don't you?

Water.
That's funny, I thought it used deuterium.
Funny, I thought it was anti-matter.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:27 PM   #993
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^I thought it was dilithium crystals!
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Old May 9 2009, 07:28 PM   #994
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^

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Sorry, I thought it was appropriate at the time.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:29 PM   #995
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^I thought it was dilithium crystals!
No it's really scotty on bike hooked up to the engines.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:31 PM   #996
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You do know what the Enterprise uses to power her warp-drive, don't you?

Water.
That's funny, I thought it used deuterium.
Funny, I thought it was anti-matter.
It runs off deuterium (Heavy Hydrogen) and anti-matter. The who react with one another to produce pure energy.

Dilithium, somehow, controls and streamlines the reaction for it to be useful.

"Reacting" the anti-matter with water seems... Unnecessary.

The "engineering" sets worked OK in close-ups but in wider shots I just didn't buy it. In part because of my "expectations" of what Engineering should look like (where was the warp core?!) and in part because when you show a wide shot of a space that's supposed to be the engineering hub of a futristic ship and all you see is a mess of pipes, steel ladders and railings, and large vats my mind doesn't think "futuristic space ship" it went to "brewery."

I just didn't buy it as being engineering on the ship.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:32 PM   #997
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^I thought it was dilithium crystals!
No it's really scotty on bike hooked up to the engines.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:35 PM   #998
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I said I wasn't going to be drawn into the nitpicker festival that's going on, but I want to weigh in on the "Kirk promoted too quickly" argument - When Pike is talking to Kirk, he mentions that Kirk's intellectual numbers are off the charts. He's a prodigy. He then is given command of a starship, attacks when everyone else retreats, and SAVES THE GOD DAMN FEDERATION! So Starfleet should pat him on the shoulder, say good job, and hand him a mop? Also, this Kirk is 26 to 28 years old, not 17. He entered the academy later than original Kirk. I have absolutely no problem, after the events depicted, with Kirk made Captain. HE'S FRIGGIN' JAMES T. KIRK! Buy into your own mythos!
Agreed. And let's not forget this is the 23rd Century. It's very reasonable to assume that the quality of education would have improved GREATLY by then (at least I sure hope so), and that students in their 20s would be just as intelligent and skilled as someone in their 40s today.

On top of all that, this is freakin Starfleet Academy, where they probably only take the best of the best to BEGIN with. When the training is done, the cadets would be about as ready for starship duty as one could possibly be. And those assigned to bridge duty would be the most brilliant and capable of all.

I mean come on people, these aren't a bunch of dumb kids who just graduated one of our high schools! lol
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Old May 9 2009, 07:41 PM   #999
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Wow! I haven't been around here in a very long time!

I saw the film last night. I had very low expectations (after that disaster of X), but found myself liking the film more than I thought I would. I rated it "above average."
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Old May 9 2009, 07:42 PM   #1000
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That's funny, I thought it used deuterium.
Funny, I thought it was anti-matter.
It runs off deuterium (Heavy Hydrogen) and anti-matter. The who react with one another to produce pure energy.

Dilithium, somehow, controls and streamlines the reaction for it to be useful.

"Reacting" the anti-matter with water seems... Unnecessary.

The "engineering" sets worked OK in close-ups but in wider shots I just didn't buy it. In part because of my "expectations" of what Engineering should look like (where was the warp core?!) and in part because when you show a wide shot of a space that's supposed to be the engineering hub of a futristic ship and all you see is a mess of pipes, steel ladders and railings, and large vats my mind doesn't think "futuristic space ship" it went to "brewery."

I just didn't buy it as being engineering on the ship.
Across the lake in Canada they use "heavy water" to moderate, regulate and cool their fission reactors.

Perhaps... given that the pipe was labeled "inert reactant" they take heavy water, split it into deuterium and oxygen.... feed the deuterium to the engines and use the oxygen for life support. It's "just" water until then hence "inert."

As for "where is the warp core" I've said it before I'll say it again: Multiple redundancy for maximum safety, no warp-core no warp drive you have to walk home.
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Old May 9 2009, 07:58 PM   #1001
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I said I wasn't going to be drawn into the nitpicker festival that's going on, but I want to weigh in on the "Kirk promoted too quickly" argument - When Pike is talking to Kirk, he mentions that Kirk's intellectual numbers are off the charts. He's a prodigy. He then is given command of a starship, attacks when everyone else retreats, and SAVES THE GOD DAMN FEDERATION! So Starfleet should pat him on the shoulder, say good job, and hand him a mop? Also, this Kirk is 26 to 28 years old, not 17. He entered the academy later than original Kirk. I have absolutely no problem, after the events depicted, with Kirk made Captain. HE'S FRIGGIN' JAMES T. KIRK! Buy into your own mythos!
Agreed. And let's not forget this is the 23rd Century. It's very reasonable to assume that the quality of education would have improved GREATLY by then (at least I sure hope so), and that students in their 20s would be just as intelligent and skilled as someone in their 40s today.

On top of all that, this is freakin Starfleet Academy, where they probably only take the best of the best to BEGIN with. When the training is done, the cadets would be about as ready for starship duty as one could possibly be. And those assigned to bridge duty would be the most brilliant and capable of all.

I mean come on people, these aren't a bunch of dumb kids who just graduated one of our high schools! lol
Righter. Smarter, better educated (especially with all the new tech), and the best of the best to begin with. Pike's dossier on the official site said he made captain in about four years.

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Old May 9 2009, 08:04 PM   #1002
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As for "where is the warp core" I've said it before I'll say it again: Multiple redundancy for maximum safety, no warp-core no warp drive you have to walk home.
That's why your car has two engines in it, right?

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Old May 9 2009, 08:13 PM   #1003
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As for "where is the warp core" I've said it before I'll say it again: Multiple redundancy for maximum safety, no warp-core no warp drive you have to walk home.
That's why your car has two engines in it, right?

You'd have a point if your car were capable of holding 400 people, and could sidestep the laws of physics.

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Old May 9 2009, 08:28 PM   #1005
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