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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
Excellent 706 62.70%
Above Average 213 18.92%
Average 84 7.46%
Below Average 46 4.09%
Poor 77 6.84%
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Old May 9 2009, 12:35 PM   #946
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How does a giant brewer feel "realistic" for an engine room for a FTL starship?

It just didn't work for me when Kirk is running past huge vats of something.
You do know what the Enterprise uses to power her warp-drive, don't you?

Water.
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Old May 9 2009, 01:07 PM   #947
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I really enjoyed the movie. I gave it an "excellent" in the poll. On a numerical scale I'd probably rate it 9/10.

It's a lot of fun, and brings back the characters in an invigorated and appealing way. The movie is not perfect -- while seeing Nimoy back as Spock was fantastic, and he's great as ever, the story he related about what happened in the future didn't make any sense to me. And while I don't think destroying Vulcan was a "mistake," I am sad to see that world, with all its richness and backstory, go.

This movie definitely changes the canon for good, whatever feelings you may have about it. But with new people taking over the franchise, canon was probably not going to be strictly adhered to anyway -- J.J. Abrams has admitted he was not a Star Trek fan prior to being attached to the movie.

At least this way we have a reasonable explanation why the adventures of this particular crew are different from the ones we already know and love so well.
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Old May 9 2009, 01:14 PM   #948
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Upon second viewing the deficiencies in the plot are even more glaring. It is truly dire, and the labourious exposition and radical leaps of logic required to navigate its convoluted inanities dampens an otherwise superlative film. Although the entire second hour of the film struggles in this respect, the stretch between the destruction of Vulvan and Kirk's meeting with Scotty is the worst. I think the snow monster was thrown in for no other reason than to break up the stream of expository bullshit.

On another note, with foreknowledge of the romance between Spock and Uhura, her line regarding Spock's assessment of her "oral sensitivity" can be read in another light entirely.
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Old May 9 2009, 01:21 PM   #949
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The franchise has been resurrected.

Well I thought this was an excellent movie. OK a few things didn't jive with my ideas of treklore but they were inconsequential when compared with the 2hr action extravaganza.

As far as I'm concerned I'm sold on going back to the past with this crew. We just loved the crews back story too...and Kirk?

There can be only one Kirk and Cris Pine has nailed it.

The movie is another example of American exceptionalism through capitalism. Only here in American do you have the visionaries, resources and freedom to bring a film like this for the worlds enjoyment.

God Bless America and death to all her enemies.
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Old May 9 2009, 01:23 PM   #950
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The franchise has been resurrected.

Well I thought this was an excellent movie. OK a few things didn't jive with my ideas of treklore but they were inconsequential when compared with the 2hr action extravaganza.

As far as I'm concerned I'm sold on going back to the past with this crew. We just loved the crews back story too...and Kirk?

There can be only one Kirk and Cris Pine has nailed it.

The movie is another example of American exceptionalism through capitalism. Only here in American do you have the visionaries, resources and freedom to bring a film like this for the worlds enjoyment.

God Bless America and death to all her enemies.
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When you see that film again, have a closer look at the end of the end-credits. There you will see the name of a German company that co-financed the film.
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Old May 9 2009, 01:55 PM   #951
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The movie is another example of American exceptionalism through capitalism. Only here in American do you have the visionaries, resources and freedom to bring a film like this for the worlds enjoyment.

God Bless America and death to all her enemies.
I hope that is glorious sarcasm and an attempt to troll.
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Old May 9 2009, 02:19 PM   #952
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The main reason to see this movie for real TOS trekkers is the characters - and they are all back! Pine and Quinto are awesome as Kirk and Pike, something that truly surprised me. Urban as Bones was a bit imitative, as was the Chekov character. The one character I was dissapointed with was Uruha. Nichols always played her with an elegance and grace that was missing from this incarnation. The Scotty character was not well written into the script, but the characterization was pretty good.

I really look at this movie as setting up the characters in a new light and nothing more, and I do look foward to more movies with this crew.

The special effects were dizzying but not that stunning as they were all so close range and were there as eye candy for the trekkers to be. I liked the bridge design and most of the ship except engineering - that did not work for me at all. It looked like an old factory they found somewhere and filmed.

The costumes were excellent - captured elements of the original, and of all subsequent films.

My WTF'S:?? (Some spoilers...)
1. Using parachutes to get the drill platform - what, no jet packs??
2. Spock leaving the Enterprise to rescue the council and his parents...no way would Spock have left his duty on the ship.
3. Pike in the wheelchair at the end...no medical breakthrough for this??
4. Spock tossing Kirk on the ice planet - why not just put him in the brig?
5. I hope they meant "Spock Prime" to look and sound that old...or Nimoy is really fading.

It was a good, but exhausting, two hours.
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Old May 9 2009, 03:08 PM   #953
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I have now seen it a second time.

It's awesomeness was even greater.

And.. I saw the tribble!

Also, great to pick up all the S/U nuances right from the beginning.

Now.. two (probably) obvious things I do not understand. Please help me!

1. What was the deal with Klingon ships being destroyed right before the Kelvin and right before the Enterprise encountered Nero? I don't get it.

2. This is the big one: Romulus's sun is going to go supernova. Spock says he can save it from doing so. Spock fails. So..

a. When exactly did this take place in the old Trekiverse?

b. How did Nero going back and stopping Spock save his planet and wife? It was going to go supernova and Spock failed to stop it so stopping Spock didn't really change that did it?
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Old May 9 2009, 03:13 PM   #954
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3. Pike in the wheelchair at the end...no medical breakthrough for this??
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Old May 9 2009, 03:16 PM   #955
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3. Pike in the wheelchair at the end...no medical breakthrough for this??
That he is in the wheelchair does not mean he is stuck there.

More than likely he is in the chair for ease and comfort until he completely recovers and so that he can be at the ceremony.
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Old May 9 2009, 03:17 PM   #956
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I saw the film and enjoyed it along with two others who were not Trek fans and they also loved it. Easily the best film since the Wrath of Khan which is my all time favorite one.

I think the new cast did a fine job and the great interactions from Kirk, Spock, and McCoy that made the orginal series great was captured in the movie too.

While I did not like some small things they did a good job in making a movie the entertained from start to finish and I look forward to the hopeful sequels that will come.
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Old May 9 2009, 03:19 PM   #957
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I must be the only guy who loved the engine room.


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No, I liked it and I saw it as a homage to the old idea of the "bowels" of the ship we always heard about and only saw briefly in TOS - when Kirk was chasing Ben Finney or his alternate self. There were pipes visible on the ship in the old series - where did those pipes go? Now we know.
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Old May 9 2009, 03:21 PM   #958
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Just got back from seeing it.

We went to the 12:00 showing and it was fairly busy. Off my usual experience at our local cinema, later showings tend to be busier though.

As for the film itself, it's one hell of a rollercoaster ride. Overall, I enjoyed it, but stylistically there are some areas where I think they should have gone in another direction. For me, some of the sets felt over-industrialized but that's just going off previous sets.

I felt the cast did well and the effects were good but to me, it's not my favourite film. I would definitely like to see a sequel with this cast though
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Old May 9 2009, 03:26 PM   #959
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Hey, what's up with the "phasers" ?

They are now disrupter style instead of beam weapons!
Check out early TOS eps. Phasers were a single light blast originally, not a beam.
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Old May 9 2009, 03:35 PM   #960
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I hope they meant "Spock Prime" to look and sound that old...or Nimoy is really fading.
I thought he looked really old and decrepit in that shot from the trailer, but he looked surprisingly good and fit in the movie.
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