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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
Excellent 706 62.70%
Above Average 213 18.92%
Average 84 7.46%
Below Average 46 4.09%
Poor 77 6.84%
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Old May 30 2009, 10:05 PM   #2206
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Re: Scathing review of the movie

I love how people who hate this movie have to start thread after thread that boil down to "look! I'm not alone! praise for this movie is not universal!"

Wow, really? No shit.

It is however, pretty darn close. A metacritic average of 83 is better than some movies that have won oscars.

That doesn't mean your opinion doesn't matter, but finding ANYONE who agrees with the minority is not really a cuase for celebration every time is it? Or are all the folks who hate this movie such special little snowflakes that we must all stop and acknowledge the beauty and uniqueness of every single one?
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Old May 30 2009, 10:07 PM   #2207
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

I went back at the theater to see the movie once again and I enjoyed it as much as the first time, even though the first time, people were yelling and applauding as each well known character would appear on screen (also when Spock did his Vulcan pinch).

And I'm pretty sure this time, the cut was different. Somehow there was two or three neat cuts in the sound when changing scenes. I can't put my finger on it the those cuts were badly done. I wonder if distributors or theaters can or will do something to a movie they're showing.
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Old May 30 2009, 10:14 PM   #2208
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Re: Scathing review of the movie

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Now that they've accomplished getting the fish hooked, they can put the meat back in the stories, giving us the more Familiar Trek we are used to without the Cannon dead weight.
It's spelled "canon."

Oh, yeah. The old they're saving the good stuff for later argument. Like that's gonna happen.
Meh, who gives a shit about the spelling, you knew what I was talking about. And yes, they can add the meat to their story later on if they so wish to.
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Old May 30 2009, 10:34 PM   #2209
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Something else I noticed last night that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere... did anyone else notice that the center of the Enterprise's deflector dish opens up? I just caught that last night, and it's especially prominant during Nimoy's "Space, the final frontier" bit.
Since I teared up at this moment the 4 times I've seen the movie, I can't help you
And it's not like I can see it a 5th to check
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Old May 30 2009, 10:58 PM   #2210
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Vigilance wrote: View Post
finding ANYONE who agrees with the minority is not really a cuase for celebration every time is it?
Who's celebrating? Do you think that those of us that didn't like the film didn't want to like it? I went in with high hopes after seeing all the positive reviews.
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Old May 30 2009, 11:13 PM   #2211
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Re: The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Just saw the film yesterday and it made me want to join.

Anyway, here's my scorecard for the film:

enjoyment: With the special effects, the urgency in the plot, and the peppering of humorous elements it gets a 9.5/10

Say it ain't so: A spoiler made it though the shields I had up against them in the form of a post on, and by a member of, a Heroes message board I use with the words "so what if it's an alternate universe..." This was confirmed by Amanda falling victim to the destruction of Vulcan and the whole shebang not resetting when Nero's ship was destroyed. Modifier of -1

Kosher quotient (initial): With an alternate reality now established and the hands of new folks, I accessed another modifier of -2

Kosher quotient (final): With knowledge of a sequel in the works continuing the story from here, the affore mentioned -2 modifier was rendered null. I can't wait to see where it goes from here

Final score: 9/10
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Old May 30 2009, 11:21 PM   #2212
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Who's celebrating? Do you think that those of us that didn't like the film didn't want to like it? I went in with high hopes after seeing all the positive reviews.
I'm pretty convinced that this is the case with a few people.
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Old May 30 2009, 11:23 PM   #2213
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I just happened to stumble across the following review.

I have to admit that he does make a few good points about problems with the script, specifically how easily Kirk and Scotty were promoted to their positions ...

"Kirk somehow manages to gain command of the starship literally within a few hours of story time despite behavior that should inspire a court martial instead. Many of the characters have been transformed into dishonest shadows of their former selves. Engineer Scotty (Simon Pegg) gains his post through fraud -- one minute he is being reprimanded on an outpost planet, and the next he is the chief engineer of the Enterprise -- entirely because Future Spock finished an important math equation for him that he couldn't actually complete himself."

http://www.californiachronicle.com/a...s/yb/130668300
Actually there's a lot wrong with that review. I could go through it point by point, but probably 85% it wrong and I'm not really going to takethe time to bother with it.

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Yes. Why is it that every time someone writes a jeremiad about the film and gets 90% of it wrong that it's incumbent on everyone else to correct him? And if the rest of the Star Trek world has better things to do than rebut yet another irate jilted lover review then we're accused of being naive cheerleaders?
Exactly.


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Old May 30 2009, 11:26 PM   #2214
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Any scathing review of this movie reveals more about the reviewer than about the movie. IMHO.
Quite positive things, some might say.
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Old May 30 2009, 11:28 PM   #2215
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Any scathing review of this movie reveals more about the reviewer than about the movie. IMHO.
Quite positive things, some might say.
Not really. It's an easy road to see the worst in things.
People are generally predisposed to negativity, and more negativity feeds upon that. It's quite simple to hate something. It requires no effort.

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Old May 30 2009, 11:54 PM   #2216
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A first officer of a ship. Have the right to disagree with the Captain order and plan of action. But the Captain have the final say so. Also the Captain doesn't have the right to have the first officer remove from the bridge. Because say first officer disagree with him.

A ship Captain first priority is to defend any planets, bases, cities, and unarm ships from any enemy attack. No matter if they are the only ship there, and they are out number and out gun. The ship Captain can send out a message to the fleet. By either, using the ship main communication system or by using one of the ship support craft.
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Old May 30 2009, 11:55 PM   #2217
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Not really. It's an easy road to see the worst in things.
People are generally predisposed to negativity, and more negativity feeds upon that. It's quite simple to hate something. It requires no effort.

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These forums tend to demonstrate that very well. I just find it curious that somebody thinks it's worthy of a personal comment on the reviewer here, yet it is accepted when so many posters do it.
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Old May 31 2009, 12:25 AM   #2218
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Just got back from my second viewing. Even the things that bothered me the first time (Kirk as a kid, the product placements, etc.) were easy to overlook this time. The only thing I'm still not clear on is how old Spock expected to save Romulus. If he fails (which he did) the sun goes nova. If he succeeds, the sun is absorbed in a black hole. Doesn't Romulus need its sun in order to survive? Or did I miss something in Spock's explanation of what happened? That one thing aside, I really REALLY love this movie. Not anywhere near as endearing as The Wrath of Khan, but it's no less of an enjoyable ride.
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Old May 31 2009, 12:57 AM   #2219
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The star that is causing the trouble is not the Romulan system's star, so having it absorbed with the red matter reaction would not have troubled Romulus, if done in time (which it was not). It is not especially clear in the movie (if I hadn't read Countdown beforehand, I'm not sure I'd have understood the explanation correctly at my first viewing).
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The star that is causing the trouble is not the Romulan system's star, so having it absorbed with the red matter reaction would not have troubled Romulus, if done in time (which it was not). It is not especially clear in the movie (if I hadn't read Countdown beforehand, I'm not sure I'd have understood the explanation correctly at my first viewing).
Ah, well that does make more sense. I just wish it had been made clearer in the movie. Thanks for that bit of info.
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