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View Poll Results: Grade the episode...
Excellent 36 54.55%
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Average 8 12.12%
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Old April 30 2009, 01:35 PM   #46
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Re: Lost 5x14: "The Variable"

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The more I think about it the more mad I am that Faraday is gone. We still had so many questions from him. I wanted a whole flashback episode just about this time travel incident that messed up him and whatshername. I feel a little cheated on the story here like it was with Eko and Libby. Not to mention I was hoping Faraday would be central to the entire time jumping back to the future thing.
This not a spoiler because I don't know anything, but just speculation. Somehow I'm betting we haven't seen the last of Daniel. This is the island afterall and if John Locke can come back from the dead, or if young Ben can be "fixed", well anything is possible.
I suppose Richard could bring him to the temple. But we've never seen an older version of Daniel hanging around. Might be cool if he was the invisible one in the cabin chair and not Jacob.
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Old April 30 2009, 01:44 PM   #47
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Re: Lost 5x14: "The Variable"

One thing that confuses me a bit about Daniel being the child of Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking: How come two blonde Brits have a dark-haired child who speaks with an american accent?
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Old April 30 2009, 02:20 PM   #48
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One thing that confuses me a bit about Daniel being the child of Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking: How come two blonde Brits have a dark-haired child who speaks with an american accent?
Fairaday grew up in the States, not Britian.
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Old April 30 2009, 03:21 PM   #49
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Above average. Lost continues to crank out above average episodes with incredible consistency! Each week is a great ride!

Once we saw how much his mother was pushing Daniel and comments about creating time, I knew he was going to be the main character who dies. It's too bad, I really liked his character. His mother is an excellent creepy weird and much more evilly manipulative than I first imagined.

So, I guess the big question is can and should they change history. From the Losties point of view, why should they? They don't have much incentive to do that if it's possible.

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Old April 30 2009, 03:22 PM   #50
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Excellent. This one really required some attention that's for sure. It filled in a lot of gaps from previous episodes.

The hydrogen bomb is coming back into play. Didn't someone here predict that?

Also, is this the end of Daniel Faraday?
Honestly, I don't think you just leave an H bomb lying around without it coming back into play. That was a major sign post.

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Old April 30 2009, 03:24 PM   #51
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What I don't get, is why did Eloise send Daniel back knowing full well that she'd kill him?

Unless it was for the same reason that she was pushing him so hard to study time/time travel..........what was that reason?
I was really enjoying the show up to this point.

Now, I'm just angry.

Fucking bitch never let her child have a childhood, no fun, no girlfriends, always work, work, work. Then, turns around and sends him to - not just his death - but killed by his own mother.

I may never watch the show again.
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Old April 30 2009, 03:27 PM   #52
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One good thing about Daniel dying; it's an end to this "let's change the past" garbage. I was scared they were going to go back on everything they said about the past being immutable!
Uh, I take it you didn't watch the previews for next week?
Not only that but being able to change the past was the big point of this episode, including it's title, The Variable. Someone needs to pay a bit more attention while watching!

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Old April 30 2009, 04:34 PM   #53
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My take is that Faraday was deluding himself thinking he could change the past after three years of desperation, and that it will be proven you CAN'T change the past. That's another thing I'm pissed we don't get to see! Daniel with the DeGroots in Ann Arbor for three years! Man why did they have to kill him?!
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Old April 30 2009, 04:50 PM   #54
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^^^ I don't buy that. These are people armed with knowledge about events to come. If they want, they can change things. You can argue that the consequences would be so severe that they wouldn't want to change things. But, that's very different than saying they can't.

I was dissappointed with Ben being saved because it seemed like a lot of wasted time and drama just to get to the point that we already knew. I was hoping for a twist.

I'll be even more dissappointed if that happens with the incident, etc. If we go through a lot of rigamorole only to end up with what we already knew. I'm hoping for a twist.

I'd be happy with a resolution where you can change history but it's very difficult. But, there's no reason why people armed with foreknowledge can't use that to change things.

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Old April 30 2009, 05:25 PM   #55
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I think the big question now is why did Eloise send back Jack & Co. if she knew they wern't supposed to go? Is she actually a bad guy? Or was she also trying to change the past and possibly save Dan?

Maybe in the original timeline Jack & Co. never returned to the Island, so Dan wen't out to find the Hostiles by himself and got shot. Maybe Eloise hoped that by sending Jack & the rest back that she could change the outcome, but unfortunately she didnt.
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Old April 30 2009, 05:58 PM   #56
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I voted Average. I also listened the podcast where Lindeloff and Cuse talked about being really proud of this episode and seeing it as a complement to The Constant. So I was expecting a really awesome episode. Unfortunately it just told us things we already knew, nothing really shocking or mind-blowing. I don't like the character of Faraday's mother and I'm not particularly interested in her story. I'm glad we learned a little more about the Incident and about Faraday's desire to change the past (or future, or whatever you want to call it), but overall the episode seemed to have a lot of filler. Them sitting around in Sawyer's living room, walking through the jungle, Faraday's flashbacks where we learn his parents are bitches...I just didn't find it all that exciting.
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Old April 30 2009, 05:59 PM   #57
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Or, maybe she figures if Jack and Kate find the diary and change the past, then she, Whidmore and Daniel can live out their lives as intended having never left the island.

that's the only thing I can even remotely grasp for her actions.
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Old April 30 2009, 06:25 PM   #58
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I voted Average. I also listened the podcast where Lindeloff and Cuse talked about being really proud of this episode and seeing it as a complement to The Constant. So I was expecting a really awesome episode. Unfortunately it just told us things we already knew, nothing really shocking or mind-blowing. I don't like the character of Faraday's mother and I'm not particularly interested in her story. I'm glad we learned a little more about the Incident and about Faraday's desire to change the past (or future, or whatever you want to call it), but overall the episode seemed to have a lot of filler. Them sitting around in Sawyer's living room, walking through the jungle, Faraday's flashbacks where we learn his parents are bitches...I just didn't find it all that exciting.
I voted Average as well, I think I was too fixated on the notion of it being a companion episode to The Constant (My favorite hour of TV ever!) and when it ended up just being a fairly straight forward flashback episode I was disappointed. A lot of the 1970s hijinks have been underwhelming to me.

For the record, my favorite episode so far this season is Dead is Dead.
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Old April 30 2009, 06:34 PM   #59
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Loved it, above average for me.

I'm sad Daniel is dead, but I don't think its the last time we see him.
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Old April 30 2009, 06:49 PM   #60
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I think the big question now is why did Eloise send back Jack & Co. if she knew they wern't supposed to go?
What makes you think they weren't supposed to go?

Daniel said they weren't, but he was simply referring to his plan to change the future then. As far as the closed loop goes, they're absolutely supposed to be there.

That's why Eloise told Ben it would be bad if he couldn't get them all to go back. In that case it would cause a paradox and destroy the entire universe!

(Granted that's a worst-case scenario. The destruction could be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.)
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