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Old April 13 2009, 08:27 PM   #1
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Heroes 3x23 "1961" Discuss and Grade

Looks like this episode is going to be Angela focused so it should be pretty good.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-sho...odeid=10736487

Angela delves into her past and reveals long-held secrets. Elsewhere, Mohinder finds out that his dad was involved in an old government operation.
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Old April 14 2009, 12:42 AM   #2
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Preview for final 3 episodes of the season. Possible spoilers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRQDX6_4go
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Old April 14 2009, 01:26 AM   #3
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Pretty good episode. Some nice continuity nods, even though I'm not entirely sure everything fits perfectly (but I don't think anything is outright contradictory to established history, so it's probably okay).

We get some insight into how the founding members of the Company came together, as well as more background on Angela, which is an intriguing diversion for an episode, but I'm looking forward to the main storyline resuming next week -- especially since it's finally starting to capture my interest! Flashback episodes can work, and this one mostly does, but (and this may just be a personal preference) I think it's better when they don't come so late in the season, not when the main arc is only a couple of weeks away from (presumably) being resolved. But this is a minor quibble. All in all, this is still much better stuff than we've been getting for most of the season.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:15 AM   #4
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"But you blew it."

Fuck you, Claire. So enamored and forgiving with Nathan who started the whole mess but not a kind word for Noah. She is such a worthless ungrateful brat. I can't stand her.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:15 AM   #5
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Wait is the black guy Charles Deveaux?
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Old April 14 2009, 02:20 AM   #6
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Yes, I believe he's supposed to be Simone's father. However, he was older than Angela. I think they should have cast someone who looks more early 30ish. He looks like a kid. If Angela turned 16 in 1961, that means she's turning 64 this year. Deveaux looked to be about 80. I like the actress they cast as young Angela, and the "we aren't communists" remark. Very typical of the mindset then. Afraid of communism. Still trusting the government.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:31 AM   #7
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DEAR GOD. WAS THAT.....WAS THAT.....COULD IT HAVE BEEN.....A FEW MOMENTS OF CHARACTER INTERACTION BETWEEN PETER AND NATHAN?????

I think they implied some hostility on Nathan's side. Could it be.....anger at getting shot?

Nooooooo, no way. That would imply some continuity of script. Like someone else was at the helm, someone different than before. That scene--made sense. On Heroes. Norman, coordinate.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:38 AM   #8
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I wonder if this episode was written by the other team. It's lagging.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:38 AM   #9
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While the teenagers are away, the guards will play.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:47 AM   #10
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DEAR GOD. WAS THAT.....WAS THAT.....COULD IT HAVE BEEN.....A FEW MOMENTS OF CHARACTER INTERACTION BETWEEN PETER AND NATHAN?????

I think they implied some hostility on Nathan's side. Could it be.....anger at getting shot?
Hopefully it was some anger about being hunted down and killed. Sorry Dorian but that trumps getting shot every single day of the week.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:53 AM   #11
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Anger is seldom rational. Anger would at least make what Nathan did make some semblance of sense on an emotional reactionary level.
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Old April 14 2009, 02:55 AM   #12
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wow... sis's ability is better then that guy who makes u forget him.
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Old April 14 2009, 03:03 AM   #13
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I loved the last scene of everyone eating together & talking. I loved these last few character focused episodes.

I cant beleive they are gonna reform the company though. And yeah I think theyve all forgiven Nathan just a little too quickly...weird.
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Old April 14 2009, 03:03 AM   #14
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That was fantastic. I hope Season 3's final two episodes will be as excellent as this one.
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Old April 14 2009, 03:04 AM   #15
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Alice felt responsible because of the chain reaction and stayed there alone all those years? Now that is one sad story. I can understand being afraid you'd hurt people if your emotions were tied to turbulent weather. I can't buy that Angela would be copacetic about leaving. Hire someone to search for her.

Fuller is trying pretty hard to tidy things up. I give him credit. He's giving us more Petrelli family and brotherly interaction, which is what I've been begging for all along. I can't complain, and I like that Noah was included at the family table. That's only right.

I cant beleive they are gonna reform the company though. And yeah I think theyve all forgiven Nathan just a little too quickly...weird.
Oh absolutely it's too quick. Fuller doesn't have enough time left to flesh out the story so he's going too quickly on the damage control. It's a Herculean task repairing Heroes at this point so I'll cut him some slack. He even made Claire seem bearable towards the end of the episode.
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