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Old April 29 2009, 04:01 AM   #1441
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Re: World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

Purchased my tickets for the 7pm May 7th premiere here in Buffalo, NY!

Not sure if anyone asked this question yet...but do they show Enterprise being launched for the first time?
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Old April 29 2009, 04:04 AM   #1442
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I have been trying to follow this thread but I have just read the first 30 or so pages. Pehaps this has already been answered. Ok, here it goes... If this movie takes place in an alternate reality were the future is changed and things are happening different, why having William Shatner appear as old Kirk was not possible. This is not the original timeline so for all we know Shatner could have been shown as the old Kirk of THIS timeline or something like that.

Showing Shatner was not going to going to break the, AT LEAST FOR ME, official, my true love, real continuity/canon.
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Old April 29 2009, 04:48 AM   #1443
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Not sure if anyone asked this question yet...but do they show Enterprise being launched for the first time?
yes and it's hella funny
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Old April 29 2009, 04:49 AM   #1444
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I have been trying to follow this thread but I have just read the first 30 or so pages. Pehaps this has already been answered. Ok, here it goes... If this movie takes place in an alternate reality were the future is changed and things are happening different, why having William Shatner appear as old Kirk was not possible. This is not the original timeline so for all we know Shatner could have been shown as the old Kirk of THIS timeline or something like that.

Showing Shatner was not going to going to break the, AT LEAST FOR ME, official, my true love, real continuity/canon.
There are a couple of reasons. For one, this movie takes place in an alternate reality that is created by characters in the existing Trek reality - namely old Spock and Nero, and in that reality, Kirk died in Generations. Second, the alternate reality takes place in the very earliest days of the Enterprise crew, it does not flash forward to the "Next Generation" era of this reality. To do so would defeat the purpose of starting over again, so that stories can now be told without the burden of continuity.
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Old April 29 2009, 04:51 AM   #1445
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I have been trying to follow this thread but I have just read the first 30 or so pages. Pehaps this has already been answered. Ok, here it goes... If this movie takes place in an alternate reality were the future is changed and things are happening different, why having William Shatner appear as old Kirk was not possible. This is not the original timeline so for all we know Shatner could have been shown as the old Kirk of THIS timeline or something like that.

Showing Shatner was not going to going to break the, AT LEAST FOR ME, official, my true love, real continuity/canon.
There are a couple of reasons. For one, this movie takes place in an alternate reality that is created by characters in the existing Trek reality - namely old Spock and Nero, and in that reality, Kirk died in Generations. Second, the alternate reality takes place in the very earliest days of the Enterprise crew, it does not flash forward to the "Next Generation" era of this reality. To do so would defeat the purpose of starting over again, so that stories can now be told without the burden of continuity.
IMO, the only hindrance to the Shatman's appearance in the movie was his growing (read, unstoppable) girth.
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Old April 29 2009, 07:14 AM   #1446
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I have been trying to follow this thread but I have just read the first 30 or so pages. Pehaps this has already been answered. Ok, here it goes... If this movie takes place in an alternate reality were the future is changed and things are happening different, why having William Shatner appear as old Kirk was not possible. This is not the original timeline so for all we know Shatner could have been shown as the old Kirk of THIS timeline or something like that.

Showing Shatner was not going to going to break the, AT LEAST FOR ME, official, my true love, real continuity/canon.
There are a couple of reasons. For one, this movie takes place in an alternate reality that is created by characters in the existing Trek reality - namely old Spock and Nero, and in that reality, Kirk died in Generations. Second, the alternate reality takes place in the very earliest days of the Enterprise crew, it does not flash forward to the "Next Generation" era of this reality. To do so would defeat the purpose of starting over again, so that stories can now be told without the burden of continuity.
IMO, the only hindrance to the Shatman's appearance in the movie was his growing (read, unstoppable) girth.
I'm gonna say it--post your weight when you're in your late 70's. Gravity catches up with everyone.
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Old April 29 2009, 01:37 PM   #1447
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^ Not everyone. My Dad is in his late 70's, and was diagnosed with diabetes a couple years ago.

He went on a diet all by himself, and lost the weight he needed to by eating right and exercising. Lost a good bit, and he's back to the weight he was years ago.

But, some metabolisms just can't work as fast as they did when they were younger.
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Old April 29 2009, 01:42 PM   #1448
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Although its funny that Kirk may be swilling Budweiser in this film, and yet later on looks at a bottle of Michelob in Save the Whales like its from another planet....does this portend bad things to come for the Anheuser Busch line?
that or Kirk has a low opinion of beer not Budweiser related.
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Old April 29 2009, 02:10 PM   #1449
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Listen guys... I am sorrry but Shatner is past it and not in good physical condition. He would have made the film lose credit and become a joke in anyone who wasn't a star trek fans eyes.

I loved him in Boston Legal but he would have turned Star Trek into a joke.

I don't want him in the film or any other films... HE is finished as far as I am concerned and all those people stuck up over him not being in it are all for nothing.

He isn't needed. He isn't in it and I am very very happy he wasn't in it.
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Old April 29 2009, 02:27 PM   #1450
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I'm gonna say it--post your weight when you're in your late 70's. Gravity catches up with everyone.
I'm gonna say it - you're talking through your hat.

Most people I know who are in their late 70s and beyond are not obese. Shatner, at least as of last weekend, is. The so-called "obesity epidemic," in the U.S. at least, is much more noticable among people of my generation and the cohort just ahead of us - in other words, the blessed "Baby Boom" - and younger. No doubt the percentage of elderly who are really fat will skyrocket in the next twenty years, but there you go.
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Old April 29 2009, 03:25 PM   #1451
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I'm gonna say it--post your weight when you're in your late 70's. Gravity catches up with everyone.
I'm gonna say it - you're talking through your hat.

Most people I know who are in their late 70s and beyond are not obese. Shatner, at least as of last weekend, is. The so-called "obesity epidemic," in the U.S. at least, is much more noticable among people of my generation and the cohort just ahead of us - in other words, the blessed "Baby Boom" - and younger. No doubt the percentage of elderly who are really fat will skyrocket in the next twenty years, but there you go.
I see, your anecdotal evidence against mine--although I'm presenting none.

All I'm saying is it is easy to gain weight, increasingly so as you age and are otherwise healthy and hearty.

The battle of the bulge is never ending. Well it does end. But never happily.
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Old April 29 2009, 03:56 PM   #1452
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There are a couple of reasons. For one, this movie takes place in an alternate reality that is created by characters in the existing Trek reality - namely old Spock and Nero, and in that reality, Kirk died in Generations. Second, the alternate reality takes place in the very earliest days of the Enterprise crew, it does not flash forward to the "Next Generation" era of this reality. To do so would defeat the purpose of starting over again, so that stories can now be told without the burden of continuity.
IMO, the only hindrance to the Shatman's appearance in the movie was his growing (read, unstoppable) girth.
I'm gonna say it--post your weight when you're in your late 70's. Gravity catches up with everyone.
I'll probably be even thinner. my family tends to follow that pattern. it's very genetic. weight gain in terms of aging.

plus, look at Nimoy.

the Shatman is more the Brutus type than the Cassius.
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Old April 29 2009, 04:03 PM   #1453
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I see, your anecdotal evidence against mine--although I'm presenting none.
Yeah, I noticed that last part.
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Old April 29 2009, 04:57 PM   #1454
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I see, your anecdotal evidence against mine--although I'm presenting none.
Yeah, I noticed that last part.
As opposed to your extensive presentation...
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Old April 29 2009, 05:31 PM   #1455
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Although its funny that Kirk may be swilling Budweiser in this film, and yet later on looks at a bottle of Michelob in Save the Whales like its from another planet....does this portend bad things to come for the Anheuser Busch line?
that or Kirk has a low opinion of beer not Budweiser related.
Michelob is also produced by Anheuser-Busch. Shatner's preference for Labatt showing through, perhaps,
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