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Old April 11 2009, 02:50 AM   #706
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Yes you get to see the enterprise go up against the narada, and you get also briefly get to see the other ships before they warp to vulcan, and at least parts of them at vulcan
Yep! Although the Enterprise is not the only ship involved in the final battle. ;-)
If you mean the Jellyfish being involved, nice, but if you are saying that there are other starfleet ships involved...AWESOME!

As a VFX student, I can't wait to see what ILM had done with this film....
Well... not starfleet, but close, you'll see!

Edit: Whoops, missed the Jellyfish part, yeah its the Jellyfish, sorry to get your hopes up.
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Old April 11 2009, 02:56 AM   #707
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I also got the impression that admiral pike pulled some strings to get kirk command of the enterprise, due to him saving so many people.
ADMIRAL Pike?
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Old April 11 2009, 02:57 AM   #708
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I also got the impression that admiral pike pulled some strings to get kirk command of the enterprise, due to him saving so many people.
ADMIRAL Pike?
OH YEAH! I forgot all about that... suprise!!!
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Old April 11 2009, 02:59 AM   #709
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Yep! Although the Enterprise is not the only ship involved in the final battle. ;-)
If you mean the Jellyfish being involved, nice, but if you are saying that there are other starfleet ships involved...AWESOME!

As a VFX student, I can't wait to see what ILM had done with this film....
Well... not starfleet, but close, you'll see!

Edit: Whoops, missed the Jellyfish part, yeah its the Jellyfish, sorry to get your hopes up.
Nah, its fine. I was surprised actually when you first said the other ships...

We have already seen the phaser effects in the trailers. Is there a new photon torpedo effect in the film?
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Old April 11 2009, 03:01 AM   #710
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If you mean the Jellyfish being involved, nice, but if you are saying that there are other starfleet ships involved...AWESOME!

As a VFX student, I can't wait to see what ILM had done with this film....
Well... not starfleet, but close, you'll see!

Edit: Whoops, missed the Jellyfish part, yeah its the Jellyfish, sorry to get your hopes up.
Nah, its fine. I was surprised actually when you first said the other ships...

We have already seen the phaser effects in the trailers. Is there a new photon torpedo effect in the film?
Don't recall on the torpedos, I do remember something I thought a little strange
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Old April 11 2009, 03:03 AM   #711
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I also got the impression that admiral pike pulled some strings to get kirk command of the enterprise, due to him saving so many people.
ADMIRAL Pike?
OH YEAH! I forgot all about that... suprise!!!
I do like the sound of that...Admiral Christopher Pike.

But does this mean there's a flash-forward at the end of the film where Kirk makes Captain (for real, this time) and is given permanent command of the Enterprise? The spoilers I'd just read here, said that Kirk only got the ship while Pike recovered from his injuries.
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Old April 11 2009, 03:05 AM   #712
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ADMIRAL Pike?
OH YEAH! I forgot all about that... suprise!!!
I do like the sound of that...Admiral Christopher Pike.

But does this mean there's a flash-forward at the end of the film where Kirk makes Captain (for real, this time) and is given permanent command of the Enterprise? The spoilers I'd just read here, said that Kirk only got the ship while Pike recovered from his injuries.
I didn't get the impression that the last scene was a flash forward. Especially since in the last scene on the bridge Spock requests to fill the position of first officer.
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Old April 11 2009, 03:09 AM   #713
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Well... not starfleet, but close, you'll see!

Edit: Whoops, missed the Jellyfish part, yeah its the Jellyfish, sorry to get your hopes up.
Nah, its fine. I was surprised actually when you first said the other ships...

We have already seen the phaser effects in the trailers. Is there a new photon torpedo effect in the film?
Don't recall on the torpedos, I do remember something I thought a little strange
Huh, interesting? So the Enterprise ejects her core sometime during the film? Cool....

Well really, who is to say that there isnt multiple smaller reactors on this version of the Enterprise. Its cool to know there will be a ejection scene...
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Old April 11 2009, 03:11 AM   #714
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Nah, its fine. I was surprised actually when you first said the other ships...

We have already seen the phaser effects in the trailers. Is there a new photon torpedo effect in the film?
Don't recall on the torpedos, I do remember something I thought a little strange
Huh, interesting? So the Enterprise ejects her core sometime during the film? Cool....

Well really, who is to say that there isnt multiple smaller reactors on this version of the Enterprise. Its cool to know there will be a ejection scene...
Yeah, all these little canisters shoot out the rear and I'm just waiting to see the core, apparently... it was the core.
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I didn't get the impression that the last scene was a flash forward. Especially since in the last scene on the bridge Spock requests to fill the position of first officer.
Okay, now you lost me.

What I had earlier read, in this thread, suggested this:

- At the end of the film, Kirk is still a Cadet by actual rank.
- He is given TEMPORARY command of the Enterprise by Starfleet, for only however long it takes for Pike to recover from his injuries.
- At which point it would be understood that Pike would once again become Captain of the Enterprise, and Kirk would presumably have to return to the Academy to continue his studies.

Are you telling me, then, that it is not the case? Didn't you just say that Kirk's captaincy of the ship at film's end is only supposed to be temporary? It was in this post. Quote:

It's not a perm rank at the end of the film, they specifically state it is relief Captain for Pike.
Did I misinterpret you?

I really hope that those old rumors aren't true. Meaning, that Kirk would go straight from Cadet to permanent Captain. Doesn't this sound as silly to you as it does to me?
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Old April 11 2009, 03:13 AM   #716
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And even if he had already completed his Academy time, at the *most* he could have graduated as a Lieutenant.
And? He should go back to the Academy anyway?

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I know I keep harping on this, but I would hope that all of you reading this would realize how totally stupid it would be to give a fresh-faced cadet the permanent rank of Captain.

I realize it and I'm way past caring. It's a goddamned Star Trek movie, for chrissakes.
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It's not a massive flash forward maybe a couple of weeks i would guess, as i said before pike probably pulled some strings to get kirk the command as he sees something in kirk that shows he can be a great captain, so my impression was that kirk had the command, pike just used the temporary command to get him in the chair.
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Old April 11 2009, 03:17 AM   #718
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It's not a massive flash forward maybe a couple of weeks i would guess, as i said before pike probably pulled some strings to get kirk the command as he sees something in kirk that shows he can be a great captain, so my impression was that kirk had the command, pike just used the temporary command to get him in the chair.
I mean, they state right in the scene where he's getting his medal that he would be a relief captain for Pike, and the flash forward scene can't be much after the medal scene, so I think the audience is supposed to believe that it is a temporary assignment. If you tie it back to TOS, and if this Enterprise is brand new, that means there must be more Pike adventures where he is in command.
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It's not a massive flash forward maybe a couple of weeks i would guess, as i said before pike probably pulled some strings to get kirk the command as he sees something in kirk that shows he can be a great captain, so my impression was that kirk had the command, pike just used the temporary command to get him in the chair.
Lovely. Straight out of the academy, Kirk gets the permanent - permanent - captaincy of the Enterprise in only a couple of WEEKS? And I'm the only one who has a problem with that?

DS9 viewers threw a fit when Red Squad got their own Defiant-class ship ("Valiant"), but this one gets a free pass? Just because it's Kirk?

On the other hand...

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I mean, they state right in the scene where he's getting his medal that he would be a relief captain for Pike, and the flash forward scene can't be much after the medal scene, so I think the audience is supposed to believe that it is a temporary assignment. If you tie it back to TOS, and if this Enterprise is brand new, that means there must be more Pike adventures where he is in command.
So which one of you is right?
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DS9 viewers threw a fit when Red Squad got their own Defiant-class ship ("Valiant"), but this one gets a free pass? Just because it's Kirk?
I'm sorry - who? When? On what?

"Captain Kirk." That's the character's real name, isn't it?
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