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Old April 7 2009, 10:10 PM   #196
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Re: World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

As I said in earlier posts, I'm not opposed to some minor things being altered in the Star Trek universe, as long as it doesn't cause too much upheaval with what is firmly established. But I just think that blowing up Vulcan is going too far. It might not be so bad if it was just bashed up a bit, but destroying it outright? No. I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide that. I dread to think what might happen in any possible sequels to this mess.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:11 PM   #197
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Fine by me. I hope you won't be seeing this movie.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:14 PM   #198
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How big is that basement?

perhaps it can be subdivided.

So every company & trademark that exist and have existed for centuries in the case of some European ones have no place in any future trek universe?


Mid-blowingly narrow and totally non-sensical criticism of this movie. 99.9% of folks don't care or notice about product placement and i doubt it would be done in a in your face way anyhow.
Pretty sad.

so desperately grasping at reasons to dislike something.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:16 PM   #199
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Re: World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

Grant wrote: View Post
'Star Trek has been ruined because of product placement !!!!'

Man, the rolly eyes icon was invented for such inane sentiments



They used an obvious Samsonite suitcase in TOS season 1s This Side of Paradise and an obvious AT & T telphone in Assignment: Earth--those sell-outs!

It is way cool IMO to assume that some products and companies might survive into future centuries, survive wars, natural disasters and economic upheavals. Like on Enterprise when they showed the crew still enjoying 20th century cinema.
What product placement?



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Old April 7 2009, 10:21 PM   #200
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after all the hype about the Klingon prison scenes, it turns out they've been deleted from the theatrical release. now that's a major letdown.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:22 PM   #201
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Carpe Occasio wrote: View Post
Grant wrote: View Post
'Star Trek has been ruined because of product placement !!!!'

Man, the rolly eyes icon was invented for such inane sentiments



They used an obvious Samsonite suitcase in TOS season 1s This Side of Paradise and an obvious AT & T telphone in Assignment: Earth--those sell-outs!

It is way cool IMO to assume that some products and companies might survive into future centuries, survive wars, natural disasters and economic upheavals. Like on Enterprise when they showed the crew still enjoying 20th century cinema.
What product placement?

http://www.ncc1701shipyard.com/crewproducts.jpg

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Old April 7 2009, 10:24 PM   #202
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Re: World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

Re: Vulcan:

So, they aren't going the reset route on that after all. Thank goodness.

Re: No product placement:

I guess having Picard labels on wine bottles would be out of place too? Even if there is some sort of no-money society in Trek - which has never been explained that well anyway - that doesn't mean people will stop labelling the stuff they make.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:24 PM   #203
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Another thing that worries me, if the new movie is a success, will IDW and Pocket abandon writing stories set in the original Trek universe and concentrate on producing tales set in the new one, so it becomes THE Star Trek?
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Old April 7 2009, 10:26 PM   #204
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Grant wrote: View Post
How big is that basement?

perhaps it can be subdivided.

So every company & trademark that exist and have existed for centuries in the case of some European ones have no place in any future trek universe?


Mid-blowingly narrow and totally non-sensical criticism of this movie. 99.9% of folks don't care or notice about product placement and i doubt it would be done in a in your face way anyhow.
Pretty sad.

so desperately grasping at reasons to dislike something.
well for me its important because i always believed that star trek also tried to transport a certain political message...
and what exactly does "in your face mean"`? I dont think that Kirk will agressivly promote his bmw bike but even a short shot of the logo would be a punch in the face for all fans...

i just dont want product placement in a 23rd century star trek movie. it contradicts every message this show tried to transport.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:28 PM   #205
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EJA wrote: View Post
Another thing that worries me, if the new movie is a success, will IDW and Pocket abandon writing stories set in the original Trek universe and concentrate on producing tales set in the new one, so it becomes THE Star Trek?
I doubt it, there will always be a market that can support these types of publications. At least I would reckon so for the forseable furture.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:29 PM   #206
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Product placement in TWoK:

http://starringthecomputer.com/feature.php?f=29

Shatner was then and had been for several years a spokesman in TV commercials for Commodore.

Not seeing it as a big deal, so long as it isn't blatant (which is the same thing meant by the phrase "in your face".)
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Old April 7 2009, 10:30 PM   #207
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EJA wrote: View Post
As I said in earlier posts, I'm not opposed to some minor things being altered in the Star Trek universe, as long as it doesn't cause too much upheaval with what is firmly established. But I just think that blowing up Vulcan is going too far. It might not be so bad if it was just bashed up a bit, but destroying it outright? No. I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide that. I dread to think what might happen in any possible sequels to this mess.
This is why Trekkie stereotypes are born. People have emotional attachments to planets that don't exist and barely played any role in Star Trek.

Gee, I hope they don't go as far as destroying our beloeve Enterprise or perhaps destroy another planet of long time foes of the Trek universe in the movies. That would just be horrib.....

Oh wait!
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Old April 7 2009, 10:31 PM   #208
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IMO, as far as publishing stories set in the Abramsverse goes, I reckon it should be like Marvel's Ultimate line, with stories set in the original universe continuing alongside it.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:33 PM   #209
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Blah, blah, blah as someone once wrote.
We don't need lectures on trek's messages or ethics.

Showing a 'real' product in trek is way down the list of ways trek has evolved over 40+ years.

It won't come across as 'in your face placement' (sorry if you don't know what that means) and showing a brand that actually exists without the character mentioning it or a long lingering camera shot of it harms nothing and no-one let alone Trek's values.
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Old April 7 2009, 10:35 PM   #210
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I don't like the idea of Vulcan getting destroyed at all. Yes, I can easily push it aside and say that is in "that" universe, and in "my" universe Vulcan is a thriving planet. Just the thought I have to watch Vulcan get destroyed is unnerving...just like it was seeing Earth get destroyed in ENT. I don't know...I just don't like it. It doesn't mean I won't see the movie, though.

Multiple canons in Star Trek...as if one wasn't confusing enough.
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