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Old March 30 2009, 06:16 PM   #106
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Re: Cobra Commander revealed (SPOILERS)

[quote=DarKush;2763086]I never thought of the hood as looking KKK-like, but even if it does, since the KKK is, or was a terrorist organization for most of its history, and Cobra is a terrorist organization, I don't see a problem with that.quote]

I really dont have problem with that either. These assosiations about the characters look would have made him seem even more evil.
The Cobra is indeed like a terrorist organization with some Nazi Germany and dictatorship thrown into the mix.
This new helmet or whatever looks pretty bad, a stupid idea. They really should have respected the source material in this one...
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Old March 30 2009, 08:14 PM   #107
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a variant of the "Cobra" attack helicopter whose designation I can never recall,
The GIJOE Dragonfly, a NOTAR, two-seat variant of the AH-1 Cobra piloted by Wild Bill.
I'll be damned, you're right about it being a NOTAR. I was about to correct you, but I just looked at the original toy online, and you're right Huh, I never noticed that before.
Really? That was the first thing I noticed. "Hey, isn't that thing supposed to have a little propeller on the tail?"

Funny thing is, the only NOTAR helicopters i'm familiar with in real life are the Bell 500Ds. I'm not sure if the concept is older or if the Dragonfly came first.
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Old March 30 2009, 08:21 PM   #108
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Cobra also used a fighter based off of the French "Mirage", but they never gave it a designation.
A similar jet, the Liquidator, appeared years later in the toyline.

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/92/liquidator/
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Old March 30 2009, 08:28 PM   #109
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Ones that would have to be special built:

VAMP
VAMP (and Cobra Stinger) were based on the Lamborgini Cheetah, an actual vehicle.

http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/cheetah.htm


.... Though I must confess I've always liked the FIREBAT.
Not as far fetched as one might suspect. maybe in the ordnance it carries and any ability to go toe to toe with real fighter jets, but in terms of being a pocket rocket...

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/vehicles/acrostar-mini-jet
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Old March 30 2009, 08:28 PM   #110
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didn't Cobra also use A-10's?
Highly modified version yes. Dorsal turret, wing mounted engines, tilt wings for VTOL ability and a third tail engine.

Alot of GI Joe stuff is loosely based on DOD conceptual artwork, I wonder if this was an early draft version of the A-10 that didn't make it past the drawing stage....
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Old March 30 2009, 08:32 PM   #111
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Ones that would have to be special built:

VAMP
VAMP (and Cobra Stinger) were based on the Lamborgini Cheetah, an actual vehicle.

http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/cheetah.htm
This I never knew...
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Old March 30 2009, 08:35 PM   #112
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The GIJOE Dragonfly, a NOTAR, two-seat variant of the AH-1 Cobra piloted by Wild Bill.
I'll be damned, you're right about it being a NOTAR. I was about to correct you, but I just looked at the original toy online, and you're right Huh, I never noticed that before.
Really? That was the first thing I noticed. "Hey, isn't that thing supposed to have a little propeller on the tail?"

Funny thing is, the only NOTAR helicopters i'm familiar with in real life are the Bell 500Ds. I'm not sure if the concept is older or if the Dragonfly came first.
Never even thought about it, to be honest. Then a again I was more interested in the rattlers and more fanciful vehicles than the stuff that looked real world based.
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Old March 30 2009, 08:49 PM   #113
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Cobra also used a fighter based off of the French "Mirage", but they never gave it a designation.
A similar jet, the Liquidator, appeared years later in the toyline.

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/92/liquidator/
Ok, I'll accept that as the designation.

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Ones that would have to be special built:

VAMP
VAMP (and Cobra Stinger) were based on the Lamborgini Cheetah, an actual vehicle.

http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/cheetah.htm
I did not know that.


.... Though I must confess I've always liked the FIREBAT.
Not as far fetched as one might suspect. maybe in the ordnance it carries and any ability to go toe to toe with real fighter jets, but in terms of being a pocket rocket...

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/vehicles/acrostar-mini-jet
Slipped right by me...good catch.
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Old March 30 2009, 08:53 PM   #114
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Admiral2 wrote: View Post
MeanJoePhaser wrote: View Post
darkwing_duck1 wrote: View Post
Ones that would have to be special built:

VAMP
VAMP (and Cobra Stinger) were based on the Lamborgini Cheetah, an actual vehicle.

http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/cheetah.htm
This I never knew...
At the risk of severely overloading the "cheese" factor in the thread: "Now you know..."
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Old March 30 2009, 08:55 PM   #115
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darkwing_duck1 wrote: View Post
Admiral2 wrote: View Post
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VAMP (and Cobra Stinger) were based on the Lamborgini Cheetah, an actual vehicle.

http://www.lambocars.com/archive/lm/cheetah.htm
This I never knew...
At the risk of severely overloading the "cheese" factor in the thread: "Now you know..."
...AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!

(Dude, it's like a code phrase! It has to be finished!)
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Old March 30 2009, 09:08 PM   #116
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At the risk of severely overloading the "cheese" factor in the thread: "Now you know..."
...AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!

(Dude, it's like a code phrase! It has to be finished!)
LOL!

True!

But to do it right you need two people, and I was sure someone would chime in with the second half!

BTW: the GI Joe stealth fighter I mentioned was the X-19 "Phantom"...nice design but about 50 years ahead of even where we are NOW and this was '88...
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Old March 30 2009, 09:58 PM   #117
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Re: Cobra Commander revealed (SPOILERS)

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Cobra also used a fighter based off of the French "Mirage", but they never gave it a designation.
A similar jet, the Liquidator, appeared years later in the toyline.

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/92/liquidator/
i used to have the GI Joe version: Storm Eagle which i think was a F-22 Raptor
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Old March 30 2009, 10:54 PM   #118
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Would this have really been so hard if even a fan can do it??

Found this nice little pic from a convention

How much you want to bet that the woman is his sister who owes him a favor?
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Old March 31 2009, 12:34 AM   #119
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I want to believe he is the coolest man we have ever seen.
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Old March 31 2009, 01:27 AM   #120
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Would this have really been so hard if even a fan can do it??

Found this nice little pic from a convention

How much you want to bet that the woman is his sister who owes him a favor?
Long as she ain't MY sister, I don't care!
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