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Old November 2 2013, 05:41 PM   #316
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Re: Excelsior Technical Manual - Revived!

Very good work indeed, Praetor.
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Old November 2 2013, 08:38 PM   #317
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Chapter Three - Design
...Design SV-20A was the initial concept completed in 2268 before the transwarp mandate was added. Quite unconventional in design, it featured a ... horizontal “wing” supported four twin warp nacelles, two mounted above and two mounted below each at the end of the wing.
I'm not sure if it is a new addition or not, but this bit is a great way to justify the new direction in pylon design that we saw with the Excelsior.
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Old November 3 2013, 03:09 AM   #318
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Praetor - love it! Keep up the great work. I've been subscribed to this thread for years now and had to log in for the first time in a couple of years to give the thumbs up.
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Old November 6 2013, 12:18 AM   #319
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Thank you all - your kind words are most flattering.

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Chapter Three - Design
...Design SV-20A was the initial concept completed in 2268 before the transwarp mandate was added. Quite unconventional in design, it featured a ... horizontal “wing” supported four twin warp nacelles, two mounted above and two mounted below each at the end of the wing.
I'm not sure if it is a new addition or not, but this bit is a great way to justify the new direction in pylon design that we saw with the Excelsior.
Well, it was kind of a happy accident. I am actually using the study models that were considered for the design as the SV-20 candidates that I describe, and it just so happens that one can string them into a semi-plausible development order, which happens to have certain features in common.

I am still debating a bit on a few points, particularly in whether the new warp jumps should be discovered before or after the Excelsior is built. I had previously decided it was before, when I went with the jump-style transwarp, but reversed myself in an effort to snatch victory from chaos. However, I am quite tempted to switch it back again, while still keeping the official scale recalibration until after the trials, probably even into the 24th century.

Something I think I also need to address is the fact that I envision the refit Enterprise benefiting from much development for Excelsior, as well as becoming a testbed for certain protoform technologies that Excelsior would pioneer. Also, I am uncertain about whether transwarp corridor drive should be available at all speeds, or simply at warp ten-ish. The "all speeds available through transwarp drive" doesn't necessarily mean that all speeds are transwarp, but just that all old speeds are available through it, IMO.

I've also incorporated a bit of lit-verse stuff while still tiptoeing around what the ship's official size is.

Thoughts are appreciated.
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Old November 6 2013, 12:40 AM   #320
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The first thing that came to mind when reading the revised chapters was "Hikaru Sulu should write the forward to this manual". And when you're done, he should.

Excellent work! Loved Scotty's quote. This flows much smoother and more objectively than previous versions and tells a story, which is the ultimate goal of this sort of fiction. Keep 'er coming.

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PS - Where did the Sulu-on-Exeter reference come from? I seem to have missed that source.
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Old November 8 2013, 04:39 AM   #321
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Thank you! I was considering having Hikaru write the foreward, although I'd have to invent a good reason to have him have written it, since he's passed away a while before the history section has been written. Maybe it could be a speech or something.

The Exeter thing is from a bit back - supposedly there was a dropped line from Wrath of Khan, maybe from the novelization, that said that was what he was previously doing. If I can't find the reference, I'll drop it and keep it vague.
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Old November 8 2013, 05:22 PM   #322
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Hum, I didn't find anything in Memory Beta, which is usually pretty good at keeping track of such minutiae. I'd like to see a source on it if you ever find it, though. Sulu's my favorite asian Starfleet captain.

And if Sulu had presumably passed away, I guess it could be a preceding interview. Perhaps something he said or wrote as he took command of her, or finally moved on. Or one of his presidential memoirs. Or heck, Demora could write it; she's a second-generation Excelsior-class CO, depending on who you believe in.

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Old November 9 2013, 05:20 AM   #323
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I hope I can find where I read that... it's starting to bug me. Sulu's been a favorite of mine since I was a kid. He's such an interesting guy. One advantage to having him write the introduction is that I think I'd find it easier to write in his voice than in Demora's since he's a bit more well defined. I had thought of fleshing out the speech Demora gives at the end of the history (spoiler alert) when the Excelsior gets committed to the fleet museum, but wanting to do her justice has dissuaded me from trying it thus far. Maybe that speech should be the introduction.

Also, if anyone has any opinions on the sizing of Excelsior, please check out my latest post in the other thread. I could really use your opinions on which size I should consider accurate.
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Old November 9 2013, 06:15 AM   #324
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Feh! Just PM DRGIII to write it for you!
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Old November 9 2013, 08:15 PM   #325
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I don't recall Sulu ever being involved with any iteration of the USS Exeter.

USS Excelsior, though...
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Old November 20 2013, 01:07 AM   #326
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Yeah, I can't find where I found that, so I'm going to avoid mentioning it.

Meanwhile, I went back and took a first pass at a forward by Capt. Sulu. It probably needs fleshing out. Let me know what you think.

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by President Hikaru Sulu, excerpt taken from his autobiography, "Written in the Stars" (2345)

A captain never forgets his first command, as the commander of any vessel from freighter to starship will tell you. It's often love at first sight, but not always. Greater thinkers than I have long wondered why we humanoids like to assign the characteristics of living beings to inanimate objects, particularly vessels. I like to think it's because of the relationship we form with them. We fight with them and we love them. To the outside observer, it's a one-sided thing. We give and give, and they take and take. However, they do give back to us, in subtle ways. They protect us from the harsh vacuum of space and take us to the boundaries of the universe and home, time and again. The bond I eventually formed with my first and longest command, the U.S.S. Excelsior, was no different. At times, it did feel decidedly one-sided, and yet, she and I took care of one another for many years.

I was first offered command of Excelsior in 2285, a full five years before I would actually assume her captaincy. Extenuating circumstances and all. Everyone in Starfleet knew about the Excelsior. She was The Great Experiment, Starfleet's newest supership and the testbed for the ambitious transwarp drive. Her captain could know great prestige as a result, but that's not what interested me. True, I had followed her development with great interest, but at that point in my life I just wanted a ship of my own... any ship would do. I would later learn that it was my former commanding officer, Admiral James T. Kirk, who had submitted my name as a candidate for the command of Excelsior. (That debt is one of many I still owe him.)

But in the interim, fate had intervened and my first command would have to wait, but that didn't prevent my first glimpse of Excelsior from being a momentous one. I hadn't had the opportunity to inspect her during the time I was her captain on paper, so in the end I first saw her along with the rest of the Enterprise bridge crew as we returned from Genesis. As the Enterprise glided to her berth inside Spacedock, we all beheld The Great Experiment firsthand, as she sat gleaming in her new thermacoat at the berth opposite ours. Uhura was the first to comment.

"Well, would you look at that!" she muttered. I noted the cynicism in her voice that many in Starfleet shared, although it's also possible my friend was intentionally downplaying it for the sake of my ego. Still, transwarp drive had been a dream for so long few believed it would ever be a reality. I was nonplussed, and continued studying Excelsior as we drew nearer.

"My friends, The Great Experiment," Admiral Kirk announced. "The Excelsior... ready for trial runs." I sensed a certain terseness in his voice. Jim Kirk could be a bit of a cynic at times, but he was hardly closed minded. Still, there was a certain apprehension that he seemed to have about the project that came through in his voice.

"She's supposed to have transwarp drive," I intoned, a bit agape and thus unable to contribute anything more profund.

"Aye," the heathered voice of our Scottish engineer intoned, "and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon!" I knew that Mr. Scott had already refused to participate in the Transwarp Development Project due to his skepticism of its success. Admiral Kirk turned, a bit playfully.

"Now now, Mr. Scott," he mock scolded. "New minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant."

Scotty's skepticism didn't phase me. My mind was elsewhere. I was in love. The Excelsior was magnificent. For a moment, my heart sank as a I realized she could have been mine at this very moment, had it not been for the fickleness of fate. However, I was all too quickly consumed by curiosity. I desperately wanted to get aboard Excelsior and walk her corridors. I didn't know it yet, but again fate would soon intervene before I would get the chance to do so. Still, fate does always seem to have a plan, and for myself and the Excelsior, there was much yet in store. Even now, I still think back to that first moment I ever laid eyes on her, and wonder if it is possible that in that moment I could have possibly seen the great adventure that awaited us both.
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Old November 21 2013, 05:21 AM   #327
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Now go bug George Takei on twitter/facebook until he records a clip of that for you.
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Old November 24 2013, 05:11 AM   #328
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Think he'd go for it if I told him about the Star Trek: Excelsior fanfics I wrote as a kid?

I must confess to being proud with that little passage. I can read it with George's voice in my head. I envision it being in the chapter where he talks about all the stuff going on in the movies, and the author of the TM just sniped it for use as a foreward. I started trying to write Demora's speech, but she's tough to write for.
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Old December 6 2013, 02:23 AM   #329
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I don't see why you couldn't at least pitch it to him. He seems to be quite good natured about such things.
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