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Battlestar Galactica & Caprica This forum was created by man. It rebelled. It evolved. And it has a plan.

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Old March 21 2009, 05:07 AM   #181
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Series Finale: "Daybreak, Part II"

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Why would they want the Duke's son killed?


No joke, the first thing I said when I saw the epilogue was, "I liked this better when it was in Chapterhouse: Dune."
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Old March 21 2009, 05:07 AM   #182
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Did they let the imprisoned people out before sending the ships into the sun?
In Part One it was said that the ones involved in the mutiny were going on the mission in exchange for their freedom.
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Old March 21 2009, 05:07 AM   #183
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Another interesting question... how do you get a language-less primitive to have sex with you?
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Old March 21 2009, 05:07 AM   #184
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Another interesting question... how do you get a language-less primitive to have sex with you?
The language of love needs no words!
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Old March 21 2009, 05:08 AM   #185
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It was a good episode and a decent ending for the series. I do feel some of the elements were sort of ripped out of thin air just to wrap things up in some way. It's seen as brilliant because it's surprising and unexpected but I don't know if it's all completely sensible, at least the metaphysical stuff. However, it's not out of the direction the series has gone all along so it's true to what we've had but it also speaks to some of the series' criticism as well.

I'm not sure about the ending bit though, I wonder if it might have worked without that, it seemed a bit of a cheeky smirk at it all, which may very well be the intention but I'm not 100% sure about it.

Still it did provide a pretty definitive end to everything and many of the character stories worked well. It just seemed right somehow that the potential peace was destroyed by the history of petty actions and not being able to look past it. I thought the Adama/Roslin story was satisfying, interesting to see them both at their best but also their not so best.

It's also interesting that in the end the series was not concerned with the plan so much as the pattern, the actual motive in the end really didn't matter which I must admit I was always concerned with. The series didn't help taunting us with the "and they have a plan" business.


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Those Centurions have 150,000 years on us. We're screwed!
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Old March 21 2009, 05:09 AM   #186
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Another interesting question... how do you get a language-less primitive to have sex with you?
That's what's disturbing, they might, but they don't have the mental reasoning to really give consent truly. It's like statutory rape. That part bothers me.
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Old March 21 2009, 05:09 AM   #187
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I just realized, THIS is Earth 2!

I don't think many SCIFI shows have shown our earth as being the "2nd" earth. There really was a REAL FIRST Earth, and we aren't on it! We are on Earth 2, not the original! Kinda cool
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Old March 21 2009, 05:10 AM   #188
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Another interesting question... how do you get a language-less primitive to have sex with you?
First you invent beer.

Which, BTW, was my main thought when I saw Tigh and the Mrs hugging and wandering about in the grass and flashing back to their drunken partying in the club - that the first thing they were going to do on Earth was reinvent controlled fermentation.
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Old March 21 2009, 05:10 AM   #189
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Moore said quite a while ago that the series would respect what we actually know about the history of life and humanity on this planet, and he was more or less true to that - the suggestion that some thousands of human beings from elsewhere might have entered the gene pool after humanity had evolved to almost modern status is, while dubious, a lot easier to swallow than the Von Daniken proposition.
Only because you say it is. Humans beings from elsewhere just seems more acceptable because they aren't little green men.
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Old March 21 2009, 05:10 AM   #190
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Excellent. Beyond excellent. I loved everything. And, yes, I adored that last rather controversial scene quite a bit.

I started losing it when Adama and Lee hugged but the tears started coming when Roslin died and Bill put his ring on her hand.

There's so much to say that I can't really say anything other than... wow!
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Old March 21 2009, 05:11 AM   #191
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I just realized, THIS is Earth 2!

I don't think many SCIFI shows have shown our earth as being the "2nd" earth. There really was a REAL FIRST Earth, and we aren't on it! We are on Earth 2, not the original! Kinda cool
Back when they showed "Earth" to be a burned-out cinder, I (and others) speculated that it wasn't "our" Earth at all, and that they might still find it. Guess we were right!
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Question: What colony was the strip club on? I could have sworn I heard somebody say it was Picon or something. I did think that was one of the coolest cityscapes I've ever seen in sci-fi.

Shit, Tigh's got some guts if he takes his *wife* to a strip club...
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I just realized, THIS is Earth 2!

I don't think many SCIFI shows have shown our earth as being the "2nd" earth. There really was a REAL FIRST Earth, and we aren't on it! We are on Earth 2, not the original! Kinda cool
Back when they showed "Earth" to be a burned-out cinder, I (and others) speculated that it wasn't "our" Earth at all, and that they might still find it. Guess we were right!
Yeah, i just really find it cool though that this "Earth" we are on is not the original one, it is Earth 2, there is an Original Earth out there floating in space. It is a neat concept to me.

It makes me wonder if the colonials hadn't interfered with this Earth, what would we have called it? How would it have advanced?

So much for the prime directive lol
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Old March 21 2009, 05:12 AM   #194
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I really liked the episode; my only worry is that in 10 years that robot montage is going to look really dated. I kind of wish they had shown the presence of emerging AI in a subtler way. Other than that, I thought the episode was really good and a fitting end to the series.
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That's what's disturbing, they might, but they don't have the mental reasoning to really give consent truly. It's like statutory rape. That part bothers me.
They can build spears but they don't have the mental reasoning to have sex?


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That's why the caption didn't say 150,010 Years Later.
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