Terminator-218 "Today is the Day" - Discuss/Grade <SPO>

[hyzmarca]

There is a Terminator novel in which John Connor has gay sex with Skynet? What is the title?

[nx1701g]

^ Not that, but there was a story that suggested Connor and Skynet both knew that they couldn't live without the other.

[Sephiroth]

I have seen that one, where Connor accepts that Judgement day happens, and SKYnet accepts that it is to be defeated by him

[Wouter2]

Sephiroth wrote:

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I have seen that one, where Connor accepts that Judgement day happens, and SKYnet accepts that it is to be defeated by him

Which both are dumb things to accept. It means that everybody loses horribly.

The ending I would prefer to the series is to take a leaf out of T2's ending - "no fate but what we make", and preferably no judgment day at all.

[Ryan8bit]

If they get a proper ending, I think they're still going to make Judgment Day happen. Friedman had said in an interview a while back that the show wasn't as much about the plot of trying to prevent JD, but about how the characters cope with that, and he kind of hinted at JD being inevitable, which is dumb considering the show's premise.

[nx1701g]

We have the episode descriptions of the final four.

Jesse’s submarine mission in the future takes a fatal turn that has unforeseen consequences for John, Sarah and Derek in the present. Also, Sarah deals with Cameron, who has become a liability, and John steps up and makes a life-or-death choice.

Fearing for her life, Sarah stashes John in a safe house with the only person she believes she can rely on, Charley Dixon. Cameron and Derek struggle to work together after she reveals a big secret, and Weaver's entire effort is at risk when John Henry is compromised – but by whom?

When John attempts to rescue Skynet’s latest target he finds himself closing in on Weaver, but at what cost? Game plans change, causing Sarah and Ellison to reunite. Meanwhile, Weaver learns Ellison’s secrets.

Fate is changed forever on the explosive season finale episode! The Connors come face-to-face with Weaver in a confrontation that shakes John to the core and changes his reality. Nothing will be the same.

[Tim]

nx1701g wrote:

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We have the episode descriptions of the final four.

Jesse’s submarine mission in the future takes a fatal turn that has unforeseen consequences for John, Sarah and Derek in the present. Also, Sarah deals with Cameron, who has become a liability, and John steps up and makes a life-or-death choice.

Fearing for her life, Sarah stashes John in a safe house with the only person she believes she can rely on, Charley Dixon. Cameron and Derek struggle to work together after she reveals a big secret, and Weaver's entire effort is at risk when John Henry is compromised – but by whom?

When John attempts to rescue Skynet’s latest target he finds himself closing in on Weaver, but at what cost? Game plans change, causing Sarah and Ellison to reunite. Meanwhile, Weaver learns Ellison’s secrets.

Fate is changed forever on the explosive season finale episode! The Connors come face-to-face with Weaver in a confrontation that shakes John to the core and changes his reality. Nothing will be the same.

Well, those certainly sound interesting!

When are we likely to hear about a decision regarding renewal/cancellation? Early April?

[Luminus]

Wouter2 wrote:

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Finally some good news! And we're in luck, this is a 2-parter and it seems good enough to me that most viewers will want to tune in again, for the conclusion. Just what TSCC needs. And I suspect the 4 episodes after that will follow pretty seamlessly, in like one long arc to the end, good for viewer retention - hopefully.

Count in the good DVR numbers, and if they manage to again gain 30-40% viewers on top of the 3.90 live, TSCC has a chance again.

Are HULU numbers being included?

[nx1701g]

^ Depends on who you ask. One place says yes, one place says no.