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Old March 13 2009, 06:09 PM   #16
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x19: "Daybreak, Part I"

I'll be sad to see her go, but I can't wait to see how the story ends. I really hope that RDM manages to deliver the finale this show deserves.
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Old March 13 2009, 07:35 PM   #17
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God I will miss this show!
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Old March 13 2009, 09:30 PM   #18
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x19: "Daybreak, Part I"

For all the ups and downs I've had with this show the last couple of years, I am very excited to see the last couple of episodes.

I'm optimistic, for my money Ron Moore was one of the minds behind the greatest series finale of all time, Star Trek "...All Good Things" so I've got a lot of faith in him to deliver something amazing the next two weeks.
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Old March 13 2009, 10:22 PM   #19
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As excited as I am for this episode and the finale, I find I am not as excited as I expected. I think it's partially due to the fact that I have (unreasonable?) overwhelming expectations for the 'Daybreaks' (particularly part 2, really). In my eyes, if it is not the greatest episode in the series and knocking on the door of greatest-in-TV-history it will be an utter disappointment. Anyone who's watched The Shield's final episodes might also be wary of whether or not BSG's 'Daybreak' will be able to come close. The 'Possible Kill Screen'/'Family Meeting' combo was absolutely sublime and completely overshadow any other finale I've ever seen (yes, including The Wire's).

That being said, I think I have expectations different than a lot of people. There's nothing that necessarily must happen to ensure my enjoyment. It just needs to be downright incredible at whatever it chooses to be.
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Old March 14 2009, 12:45 AM   #20
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Just popping in to tell you that for the first time I'm jealous of those of you with real TV who will be watching this in just a few minutes. I will have to wait until sometime tomorrow. Pitty me.

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Old March 14 2009, 01:09 AM   #21
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One thing I am certain of. People will be talking about this show long after it leaves us. I will miss it.

I totally agree. And I will miss it too.
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Old March 14 2009, 02:16 AM   #22
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I am going to miss this show when it is all over. I was 10 when the original aired, always hoped the show would come back. I have to say I was not thrilled when I heard about the re-imagining. I gave the new show a shot and was hooked since 33.

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Old March 14 2009, 04:00 AM   #23
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Suffered from Setup Syndrome to a certain extent, I can really tell the 3 parts were intended to be totally seamless.

Nonetheless, I've never been so captivated by setup in my life. I was surprised by the flashback's, and I really loved that stuff. BSG, even in at the end when the huge plot needs tying up, never abandons it's commitment to the characters and texture of the BSG universe.

This is gonna be a long ass week.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:01 AM   #24
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Average. The final stretch of a series in theory should be its most emotional and the one where it takes the greatest risks yet this season has been absolutely listless with no real force guiding it. The last three episodes have been designed to drag out the last of its material to save it for the finale--now you can add this episode to it. I actually thought the first part of the series finale would be at least interesting set up but it is just as lethargic and repetitve as the other episodes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again just because BSG features quiet scenes featuring two characters doesn't magically make them great or the series a an outstanding drama and that has been the case in these last several episodes. I didn't care for any of the scenes to be honest.

Once again more re-establishing of pre-existing threads but no real movement or interesting insights. They just keep repeating them and at this stage why even do a recap before the episode since the hour itself keeps bringing them up--Baltar, the cult, something more to Starbuck, the musical notes, Anders in a tub spouting gibberish, Cavil promising to do evil things to Hera--all of this has been the same threads over and over for four episodes. What new did we learn about any of it. And the flashback to life on Caprica really wasn't that compelling or insightful nor did it parallel to something happening to the characters unless seeing Anders in a tub speaking to a sports reporter or Lee chasing a pigeon is great drama. It certainly doesn't effectively utilize flashbacks the way Lost has mastered them for instance.

I'm not opposed to set-up but it should be entertaining not repetitive.

The packing up and clearing out of Galactica was one of the few moments to evoke any sort of melancholy associated with the show ending which is unfortunate.

As has been the pattern for quite some time the episode predictably picks up some steam in the last act. Roslin with every last ounce of stress to walk to the hangar bay assisted by Adama and interlocking arms with Starbuck was one of the truly genuinely moving and stand-up moments in the whole hour. Too bad the rest of it wasn't up to that level. Then of course the revelation of the colony inside an asteroid field.

I'm not the least bit impressed with the show and the way it just limps to the finish line dissipating whatever momentum that remained.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:09 AM   #25
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I read something a while back about part of the finale involving Roslin wading in a fountain on what was supposed to be Caprica. At that point I thought... PLEASE! No flashbacks! But I have to say, it worked out quite well. It almost felt like a season finale of Lost. I can't wait to see where this is going. Yes, it was a lot of set-up but it was good. It's hard to grade this one since it's supposed to be part of a larger whole, but I'm gonna go with "above average" for the first hour.

What else...

- It was interesting seeing that side of Caprica Six, the way she took some initiative to help out Baltar's father.

- Speaking of Caprica Six, they kind of ruined that running joke about her name by having Baltar say that he didn't catch it. I always figured that he was too embarassed to ask after having been with her for a while.

- That was Racetrack wasn't it? She wasn't punished for her part in the mutiny?

- What was Bill Adama doing at the beginning during his Caprica scene? I didn't catch what was going on.

- Nice to see Simon again. Doral too.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:09 AM   #26
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Above Average. Very good but right now it's all set-up. I only hope that two hours is enough time to wrap up what's left.

I did enjoy the extended Lost-like flashbacks and Baltar with his old man was pretty damn funny. Some nice little scenes at the end too, with Adama and Cottle and Kara taking Roslin's hand at the end.

I can't believe the end is almost here. I'm going to miss this show greatly. Drama and Sci-Fi just won't be the same.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:10 AM   #27
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I though it was a good set up for next weeks finale. I will miss this show when it is gone .
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Old March 14 2009, 04:10 AM   #28
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So, that was Part 1 of a 3 parter. Typically Part 1 of any To Be Continued... is going to be slow, as they build up to stuff, so I can forgive the slowness of the episode.

I know a lot of people here may not have liked or saw the relevance of the flash backs, but personally I can appreciate the character depth given by flashing back to before they all came together. I see how they have all grown together now, and our on each other's sides no matter what, right here at the end, Cylon or Human, it is all the same at this point. It has a nice synergy about it.

I give this episode an Average. I expect next week will get an Excellent.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:11 AM   #29
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I smell a reset coming on using that black hole. It ain't there for nothing, ya know.

As far as tonight, it was OK, not bad, not really that great, but OK.
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Old March 14 2009, 04:13 AM   #30
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- That was Racetrack wasn't it? She wasn't punished for her part in the mutiny?
Adama asked all former military incarcerated to be freed if they volunteer for the mission. Then, Racetrack and Skulls have banter about how of course they would be sent into an asteroid field because of what they did, and Racetrack says "yeah well, beats sitting in a cell"
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