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View Poll Results: Grade the episode
Excellent 5 8.77%
Above Average 27 47.37%
Average 16 28.07%
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Old March 10 2009, 03:00 AM   #16
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Re: Heroes 3x19 "Shades of Gray" Discuss and Grade

Okay, being a dad I did like the last scene with Nathan saving his daughter.
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Old March 10 2009, 03:07 AM   #17
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Re: Heroes 3x19 "Shades of Gray" Discuss and Grade

wow, is Nathan rebel?

um well this has been my fave ep so far this volume. Mostly cuz it was so Nathan centric & I loved the final shot of flying daddy carrying healing daughter away from danger(daaaw). Even though I still cant stand Claire & think her helping Doyle was among the dumbest things she's ever done.

EDIT: yeah Gertch, I missed seeing Nathan as a father. Its like the writers had forgotten he used to have a family...
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Old March 10 2009, 03:07 AM   #18
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I give this episode an Above Average solely for the Star Trek trailer. If it wasn't for the trailer, this episode would be another average.
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Old March 10 2009, 03:08 AM   #19
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melancholymecha wrote: View Post
wow, is Nathan rebel?
If Nathan is Rebel it would make absolutely zero sense IMO. But you never know...
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Old March 10 2009, 03:11 AM   #20
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Yet another watchable but middling episode.

Last week I said that Matt being dropped off in Washington with a bomb should have been a dramatically exciting moment but was instead flat. I certainly didn't care for the non-event that was the whole defusing that lasted all of three minutes. No tension whatsoever.

Doyle the puppeteer was wasted-what really was the point in bringing him back? He could handle himself he didn't need Claire. Comic geeks--all of which were extras from Chuck's Nerd Herd --oogling over Claire was pointless.

My interest did peak with an Angela/Hunter confrontation on the horizon but even it wasn't up to par. Usually you can never go wrong with Angela.

Nathan is all over the place. One minute the bad guy who put all of this into motion. The next trying to undo his clusterf*ck. The episode seemed to want to suggest that maybe he wanted to set this in motion for some altruistic unknown reason perhaps as a pre-emptive move on his part against the government who were already aware of those with abilities but it doesn't come off that way.

I was disappointed with Sylar's confrontation with his dad. This was built up for five episodes and I don't know what I would have wanted but this wasn't it. It didn't really reveal anything new or interesting.

Tracy was brought back for some lame snarking with the Hunter.

And when Fuller mentioned last Dec in an article that Janice and Matt's son would be returning to the show I had expected it would be in a more interesting manner than Hiro/Ando babysitting Matt Jr. Please don't let next week be Hiro babysitting a superbaby and hilarity ensues. I had enough of silly Hiro last volume to last me for quite some time.

I had some high hopes when I noticed a new writer Oliver Grisgby but it doesn't feel any differently.

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Old March 10 2009, 03:35 AM   #21
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I think it would have been cooler if Sylar's dad had gotten Sylar's healing power & then he'd stick around as sort of this constant pest for Sylar deal with, always trying to one up him... too bad, he could have been interesting.
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Old March 10 2009, 03:56 AM   #22
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Since his escapade in Haiti, Nathan had been concerned about the possibility of superpeople going off the deep end and using their powers to set themselves up as god-kings. And he's just figured out that the National Socialists he's been working with may be a worse problem.

This episode does a fairly good job of setting up what comes next, in my opinion, just looking at the preview. As a standalone, it's weak, but it is indicative of a real change of pace. They're still holding back a little bit, but they're actually moving towards something again. And they're moving there fast.
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Old March 10 2009, 04:12 AM   #23
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I thought this episode was a mild improvement over the norm this volume, but maybe I'm just imagining it since this is the first "Bryan Fuller's Back!" episode. I like the metaphor of Syler's Dad the rabbit killer, and Sylar sparing his life, and the dad trying to kill him for a new life right after his speech about wanting to die. And Nathan finally got outed by Danko, so that was nice. Right after Nathan finally gave him the boot. And even Claire's on the run now, so we're getting some movement on the plot. I also liked the 'redemption' of Puppet Master. As for baby Matt Parkman, I called it would be a baby, but the name sure is a WTF moment. Just a coincidence? Or did Matt transfer his consciousness into a baby or something? Weird.
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Old March 10 2009, 04:19 AM   #24
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I think Micah is Rebel.

This series just hasn't had that spark it had originally, I don't know if it's because the novelty is gone or the quality. It might be the constantly put-upon state of the heroes.
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Old March 10 2009, 04:22 AM   #25
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I'd be friggin' shocked if Micah wasn't Rebel, it's basically either him or the Israeli internet girl from S1. Much as I like Parkman, that would have been awesome if they really did blow him and make him a martyr for the mutant cause (or should I say the mutant hunter's cause!).
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Old March 10 2009, 04:27 AM   #26
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Yeah, but it's hardly being "outed" when the only other witness is one of Nathan's strongest allies. Especially considering he'll be dead within hours anyway (Sylar).
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Old March 10 2009, 06:35 AM   #27
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Kryton wrote: View Post
Yeah, but it's hardly being "outed" when the only other witness is one of Nathan's strongest allies. Especially considering he'll be dead within hours anyway (Sylar).
Wasn't there a camera in that room...?
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Old March 10 2009, 07:04 AM   #28
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Yeah, but it's hardly being "outed" when the only other witness is one of Nathan's strongest allies. Especially considering he'll be dead within hours anyway (Sylar).
Nope it doesnt look like the Hunter will be killed by Sylar. From the next weeks previews they show the Hunter takining over the company or the unti he was just kicked out of...
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Old March 10 2009, 07:39 AM   #29
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So I wonder what the Hunter's Power is?

He must have one. Nathan's mom pretty much said so during their conversation.
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Old March 10 2009, 07:59 AM   #30
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Good.

I like that Danko finally found out that Nathan can fly. About freaking time. That suicide bomber thing really went nowhere fast. Thank god Sylar didn't take the entire season to find his dad. Sylar met dad and... left him to die alone.

The Star Trek trailer was a nice surprise!
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