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Old March 9 2009, 04:34 AM   #61
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Re: Did Enterprise happen in this Star Trek's past?

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You're not mistaken, and your English is still just fine.

Meanwhile, back at "did Enterprise happen... "
...sounds like the start of a bad joke to me...
As long as the subject is "Enterprise" someone will be along to make one soon...

...or not...
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Old March 9 2009, 05:12 AM   #62
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I would like to see ''or'' hear some mention of ENTERPRISE...
There will be references to all of the series, the filmmakers have said, including Enterprise.
WOO-HOO! I hope the filmmakers aren't just saying that, They woulden't really have to even ''mention'' the events of enterprise, just put a picture of the NX-O1 up in the halls of starfleet, and I'd be happy as a tribble
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You're not mistaken, and your English is still just fine.
Thanks.

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Meanwhile, back at "did Enterprise happen... "
Sorry. I get the drift.

Ahem, ... well yes, I think Enterprise did happen. At least I hope it did. I mean, what with all the money I spent for the ENT DVDs? What if they're all really empty?!
^You and me both! you don't even WANT to know how much money I spent on ENT related ''merch''! the last thing I need to happen is to have all my ENTERPRISE stuff ''dissapear''
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Old March 9 2009, 05:23 AM   #63
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...sounds like the start of a bad joke to me...
As long as the subject is "Enterprise" someone will be along to make one soon...
A piece of wood, a mannequin, and a redneck walk into a bar...
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Old March 9 2009, 05:27 AM   #64
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As long as the subject is "Enterprise" someone will be along to make one soon...
A piece of wood, a mannequin, and a redneck walk into a bar...

..thus are born T'Pol... Archer... and Trip... according to some critics.
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Old March 9 2009, 07:08 AM   #65
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Re: Did Enterprise happen in this Star Trek's past?

daveyNY wrote: View Post
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As long as the subject is "Enterprise" someone will be along to make one soon...
A piece of wood, a mannequin, and a redneck walk into a bar...

..thus are born T'Pol... Archer... and Trip... according to some critics.
The bar, of course, not being named, or even acknowledged by other characters is uhh.... you know, that guy, who sits at the helm.

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Old March 9 2009, 07:16 AM   #66
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I'm pretty sure that the TV show Enterprise is referenced when
* Yeah. Now, Enterprise is the only Trek tv series that continues canon. TOS maybe can be similar, but TNG era is gone.
How?

If Spock gets the timeline pretty much back on track, how is TNG affected? By the time you get up to the Picard/Sisko/Janeway era, the wrinkles in the timeline could be all ironed out and things proceed as we know them.
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Old March 9 2009, 07:22 AM   #67
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As long as the subject is "Enterprise" someone will be along to make one soon...
A piece of wood, a mannequin, and a redneck walk into a bar...

..thus are born T'Pol... Archer... and Trip... according to some critics.
Not Chakoty...7of 9 ....and Paris?
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Old March 9 2009, 07:51 AM   #68
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Re: Did Enterprise happen in this Star Trek's past?

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I'm pretty sure that the TV show Enterprise is referenced when
* Yeah. Now, Enterprise is the only Trek tv series that continues canon. TOS maybe can be similar, but TNG era is gone.
How?

If Spock gets the timeline pretty much back on track
I don't see how there's anything he can do to fix the damage that's already been done. All he can do is prevent *further* damage, right?

, how is TNG affected? By the time you get up to the Picard/Sisko/Janeway era, the wrinkles in the timeline could be all ironed out and things proceed as we know them.
About that:
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Old March 9 2009, 07:54 AM   #69
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* Yeah. Now, Enterprise is the only Trek tv series that continues canon. TOS maybe can be similar, but TNG era is gone.
How?

If Spock gets the timeline pretty much back on track
I don't see how there's anything he can do to fix the damage that's already been done. All he can do is prevent *further* damage, right?

, how is TNG affected? By the time you get up to the Picard/Sisko/Janeway era, the wrinkles in the timeline could be all ironed out and things proceed as we know them.
About that:
The story which forms the framework for this movie is about how old Spock is traveling back in time to keep Nero from changing the timeline. And you seriously think he will fail? I'm not saying it isn't possible. I just don't think it's very likely.
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Old March 9 2009, 08:20 AM   #70
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ENT will be referenced directly in this movie with the appearance of the old Porthos.
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Old March 9 2009, 08:38 AM   #71
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ENT will be referenced directly in this movie with the appearance of the old Porthos.
The only thing more fucked up than that post is that it is probably true.
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Old March 9 2009, 08:41 AM   #72
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The story which forms the framework for this movie is about how old Spock is traveling back in time to keep Nero from changing the timeline. And you seriously think he will fail?
I thought he only arrived in the 'past' after Nero had already destroyed the Kelvin,
, and possibly San Francisco as well. We definitely see the destruction of the ship and the planet in the previews, and we see San Francisco hit by the drill weapon (doesn't bode well for the city, given that we know that in this timeline, the Enterprise isn't built there anymore, it's built in Riverside, Iowa).

Unless you're suggesting Spock makes multiple incursions into the past? (Or, conversely, could do one final act that prevents Nero from ever existing in the first place - the ultimate reset button, as it were)
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Re: Did Enterprise happen in this Star Trek's past?

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ENT will be referenced directly in this movie with the appearance of the old Porthos.
The only thing more fucked up than that post is that it is probably true.

Old Porthos will bring a message to Old Spock from the past from Captain Archer, who got the message from the future from Daniels, who got it from the past from Old Spock as he spoke his dying words of "Cut the red wire, not the green one."
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Old March 9 2009, 11:40 AM   #74
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How can Porthos be in Star Trek? Wouldn't he be dead by then?
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I can't see how the time-period of 'Enterprise' (let's say 2150-2170 or so), would be affected by Nero arriving in the 2250s or whatever and destroying a ship. All of the events of the 'Enterprise' era had long since occurred.

What WOULD be in question is everything that occurs in the regular timeline after 2250 (or whenever the Kelvin is attacked). So that's all of TOS (plus films), TNG, DS9, VOY, and the TNG films.
The Kelvin attack happens as Jim Kirk is born, dating it at 2233, probably March 22 (Kirk's supposed birthday). Still well after the events of "Enterprise."

As another interesting point, according to VOY: "Relativity," in the 29th century there are timeships like the Relativity that have temporal sheilding to protect themselves from temporal incursions. These ships supposedly are scanning the timelines looking for such incursions that they need to prevent. If Nero did interfere that seriously
, wouldn't they just send an operative from their time back to fix the timeline. This is neither here nor there, however, so don't try to think about it too much.
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