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View Poll Results: Grade "Gray Hour"
Excellent 4 7.14%
Above average 24 42.86%
Average 20 35.71%
Below average 5 8.93%
Poor 3 5.36%
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Old March 8 2009, 11:22 PM   #31
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Re: Dollhouse 1x04 Gray Hour - Poll & Discuss

Well, Pingfah is comment about the Dushku interview is making me change my mind. In stead of the next episode being my last viewing, I may tune in for one or two more after that to see what a non-FOX-fucked-with "Dollhouse" is like.


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Old March 9 2009, 12:26 AM   #32
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Re: Dollhouse 1x04 Gray Hour - Poll & Discuss

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One problem, I think, is that Eliza's last series didn't exactly give her the chance to act either. In Tru Calling, every other character was given a lot of depth and development, EXCEPT Tru, whose only job was to go back in time and solve the problem of the week. The writers ignored her for the sake of plot advancement. She didn't get squat in terms of development.

Now in this series her character is a blank, staring cypher.

I'd love to see her in a show where she gets to be a single, developing, well-written character.
Are you kidding? This premise is an actor's dream! A different character every week? That's actor heaven. Hell, this last episode, she played three different characters in one hour!

The problem is not the premise. The problem is Dushku's inability to rise to the occasion.

And I love Eliza Dushku. Well, looking at her, anyway.
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Old March 9 2009, 04:20 AM   #33
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Re: Dollhouse 1x04 Gray Hour - Poll & Discuss

I've not been watching this show but I do like to keep up with what's going in the sci-fi community. I have to say that FOX kind of dropped the ball with this one. I can't speak for quality but I can speak for advertising. There was none.

I am curious to know how involved FOX was with the restructuring of the show.
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Old March 9 2009, 05:56 AM   #34
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So far the show is living off Whedon credit in my corner.

It is mildly intriguing, has an interesting premise and arch storytelling (a big one for me).

On the other other side of the coin it has mediocre acting (sorry Dushku.. you are pretty and my type but i guess there's a reason why you aren't a big movie or TV star outside of Whedon shows), some dumb premises (really.. why hire a negotiator, bodyguard or midwife for 1 million $ or more when you can get a real professional for a fraction of the cost) and overall mediocre stories.

I'm pinning my hope that it picks up soon and switches into high gear and if this doesn't happen within the next 5 episodes or so i think i'm done.
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Old March 9 2009, 06:09 AM   #35
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Is it true that they cast Alan Tudik as "Alpha" for the next several episodes?
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Old March 9 2009, 07:41 AM   #36
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Is it true that they cast Alan Tudik as "Alpha" for the next several episodes?
If so, I wonder if they will even bother explaining why the silhouette of Alpha we saw looks nothing like Tudyk.
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Old March 9 2009, 08:03 AM   #37
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Above average, despite the double nonsense of the week - the midwife scene and Echo being able to hold a guy much larger than her against a locker with one arm.

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Old March 9 2009, 08:07 AM   #38
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Above average, despite the double nonsense of the week - the midwife scene and Echo being able to hold a guy much larger than her against a locker with one arm.
Plus the fact that a few smoke bombs are apparently enough to escape from a highly guarded, on the brink of being impenetrable, safe. Carrying someone on your neck, iirc. Only to meet your handler just outside the door.
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Old March 9 2009, 08:12 AM   #39
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^To be fair, they did also have a guy with a submachine gun shooting at them.
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Old March 9 2009, 03:52 PM   #40
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Is it true that they cast Alan Tudik as "Alpha" for the next several episodes?
If so, I wonder if they will even bother explaining why the silhouette of Alpha we saw looks nothing like Tudyk.
I was thinking that the silhouette of Alpha looks like Tahmoh.

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Old March 9 2009, 06:07 PM   #41
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Is it true that they cast Alan Tudik as "Alpha" for the next several episodes?
If so, I wonder if they will even bother explaining why the silhouette of Alpha we saw looks nothing like Tudyk.
I was thinking that the silhouette of Alpha looks like Tahmoh.

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Now that would be a Whedon-worthy mindfuck twist!
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Old March 9 2009, 08:09 PM   #42
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I thought this particular episode was mostly average, maybe a little above.

I liked that Echo and Sierra got the same personality. Interesting with a little humor.

I don't really want to see Echo broken down to toddler level every episode, whispering "shall I go now?", but I trust that will be less as she remembers more.

I'm annoyed with Topher -- the acting, but also the reset button every week: "That can't happen! OMG!" then next week he's his cocky, smart-ass self to Boyd again, like nothing can ever go wrong.



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Old March 9 2009, 08:16 PM   #43
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I'm annoyed with Topher -- the acting, but also the reset button every week: "That can't happen! OMG!" then next week he's his cocky, smart-ass self to Boyd again, like nothing can ever go wrong.
I'll agree with you there. Topher is not just my least favorite character; he's very, very annoying. Too bad that hot Asian chick from last week can't take over as the mind-wipe specialist.
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Old March 9 2009, 09:36 PM   #44
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Strongest episode yet. Any ideas as to who Adelle was on the phone with early in the episode?
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Old March 9 2009, 10:02 PM   #45
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I'm annoyed with Topher -- the acting, but also the reset button every week: "That can't happen! OMG!" then next week he's his cocky, smart-ass self to Boyd again, like nothing can ever go wrong.
I'll agree with you there. Topher is not just my least favorite character; he's very, very annoying.
I'm also jumping on the "Topher is the most annoying character" bandwagon.
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