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Old March 21 2009, 11:53 AM   #61
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Re: if Chakotay doesn't have a last name, when he gets married...

Annika Hansen of course.
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Old March 21 2009, 12:58 PM   #62
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Re: if Chakotay doesn't have a last name, when he gets married...

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Annika Hansen of course.
Then there ya go...

Mr. and Mrs Fred and Annika Chakotay

Although as i said and edited. a previous message to this.

Chakotay, if his name is FRED, that is Sooo uh... GAY...

Chakotay could have had a cooler name than just FRED for an Native American name...

Dakota Chakotay, Cheveyo Chakotay, even Cheyenne Chakotay... Something like that. Sounds more native american than FRED!

Wants to know what the hell the writers were thinking!

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Old March 21 2009, 01:21 PM   #63
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Annika Hansen of course.
Then there ya go...

Mr. and Mrs Fred and Annika Chakotay

Although as i said and edited. a previous message to this.

Chakotay, if his name is FRED, that is Sooo uh... GAY...

Chakotay could have had a cooler name than just FRED for an Native American name...

Dakota Chakotay, Cheveyo Chakotay, even Cheyenne Chakotay... Something like that. Sounds more native american than FRED!

Wants to know what the hell the writers were thinking!

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Or maybe a name that rhymes with Chakotay and Seven, like :
Jay Chakotay and Seven Eleven.
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Old March 21 2009, 05:24 PM   #64
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Thanks Gorf. I enjoy your posts too, especially in the TrekLit forum. As to expressing myself, like I said, it's harder for me than you think.
I think I understand quite well. English comes easy to me now, but I'm actually Danish.

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Old March 21 2009, 06:49 PM   #65
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Re: if Chakotay doesn't have a last name, when he gets married...

You know how kids with weird names are teased. Mercilessly. Obviously "Fred" was just something Rob made-up to amuse the fan-inquisition at conventions who kept asking the same damn questions year after year... So, if his name had been "Fred" or something equally Angelic (That can't be right?) and he was raised with the children of the tribe who had much more "normal" and "traditional" native American names, so of course he had come to the habit of not telling people his Christian name to avoid a kicking.
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Old March 21 2009, 07:08 PM   #66
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^ I think there's some confusion over the mutliple meanings of the word "yanno":

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yanno

I'm pretty sure teya meant definition #1 but perhaps it's best to avoid using this term just so there aren't any understandings.

kimc, who has just learned something new today.
Indeed, that's exactly what I meant.
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Old March 21 2009, 07:20 PM   #67
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I'm pretty sure [B wrote:

teya[/b] meant definition #1
Maybe so, but that's not what I'm sensing here. Since English is not my native language, it's not always easy to express myself the way I want to;
there are still words I have to look up because I haven't encountered them before. For someone who was raised in English, my choice of words could be seen as simplistic (see definition #3), but it should not be the reason for making insults (if that was the case).
kimc was correct. Like her, I've never heard the word used in any other way than #1.

So, no insult was intended.
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Old March 21 2009, 08:51 PM   #68
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I'm pretty sure [B wrote:

teya[/b] meant definition #1
Maybe so, but that's not what I'm sensing here. Since English is not my native language, it's not always easy to express myself the way I want to;
there are still words I have to look up because I haven't encountered them before. For someone who was raised in English, my choice of words could be seen as simplistic (see definition #3), but it should not be the reason for making insults (if that was the case).
kimc was correct. Like her, I've never heard the word used in any other way than #1.

So, no insult was intended.
Well, that's good to hear. I prefer getting along with people.
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Old March 21 2009, 10:41 PM   #69
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@Taya - it seems to me like you're constantly looking for a fight or maybe rather that you expect to be insulted/hurt by almost everybody, and so you're so up in arms that you end up reading insult where there is none - hell might even be a compliment as was the case with Captain Gandalf's statement about being spiritual. At least that how I read the tone many of your posts carry. I see a fight, not an interesting debate. Just my opinion. You accuse people of making assumptions, but you tend to do this a lot yourself. Oh well, moving on. You and I really have very little to talk about.
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Old March 21 2009, 10:47 PM   #70
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Chakotay, if his name is FRED, that is Sooo uh... GAY...
I think Fred is an awesome name. Fred Astaire, Fred Weasley, Fred Flintstone, etc.

However, this seems to be a thread less about names and more about words so I have an idea. We all come from a wide variety of cultures, backgrounds, jam preferences, etc. If somone says a word like "yanno" or "gay" or "pickles" and you're not sure if the intent is to be insulting or not why not a simple "What did you mean by that?" It could be they meant nothing by it and if it turns out they did then we can go from there.

Now back to my Saturday afternoon nap.
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Old March 22 2009, 07:53 AM   #71
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@Taya - it seems to me like you're constantly looking for a fight or maybe rather that you expect to be insulted/hurt by almost everybody, and so you're so up in arms that you end up reading insult where there is none - hell might even be a compliment as was the case with Captain Gandalf's statement about being spiritual. At least that how I read the tone many of your posts carry. I see a fight, not an interesting debate. Just my opinion. You accuse people of making assumptions, but you tend to do this a lot yourself. Oh well, moving on. You and I really have very little to talk about.
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I apologize. I didn't mean it as a flame. I considered my words carefully in order to avoid that, but I knew that it would be borderline as it's always hard to say something like this.
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Old March 22 2009, 10:57 AM   #72
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Re: if Chakotay doesn't have a last name, when he gets married...

Well after reading this thread, I think I will agree with most of the fan fiction I read, when Chakotay gets married and if his children need last names then theirs would be Janeway.

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Old March 22 2009, 12:36 PM   #73
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Chakotay himself apparently has a real name:
Amal Cortey (or something like that).
It was mentioned in S7 'Workforce' episode when he tried to jog Janeway's memory.
Of course he could have made it up in an attempt to hide his identity from those who might have been listening, but at the same time, he mentioned it after realizing she didn't know what the name 'Chakotay' signifies.

I guess Chakotay is his tribal name and became commonly used because SF had his real name on file but opted to respect his background.
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Old March 22 2009, 01:04 PM   #74
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CHAKOTAY: Nothing. I just wanted to introduce myself.
JANEWAY: Oh. What did you say your name was?
CHAKOTAY: Chakotay. Actually, that's just what my friends call me. My employment file lists my given name, Amal Kotay.
JANEWAY: Well whatever your name is, I'm happy to help you any way I can.
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Old March 22 2009, 01:41 PM   #75
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Guy have you been over at the Voyager transcripts site? LOL

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