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Old March 3 2009, 07:33 PM   #31
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Re: Heroes 3x18 "Exposed" Discuss and Grade

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^I've been saying that since Season 2. Sylar's arc was done at the end of S1. This whole "redemption" bulls**t is only because Quinto's so popular, I'd bet money on it.

While I liked the episode in general, just the line about Mrs. Bennet being a Def Leppard fan shoved it into the Above Average category for me. That one line caused way too many college flashbacks.
Her being a Def Leppard fan and the 80s flashback being in Black & white made me feel old.


Also, if you are looking for a guy who can breath under water, wouldn't the pool be the first place you look?
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Old March 3 2009, 07:40 PM   #32
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The Peter only having one power at a time thing is working for me right now, but eventually he will need to get his original power back so he can have a big show down with Sylar. I imagine he will get get his power back when he touches Sylar and copies his power. Of course it would have been cool if Peters power really did switch powers with people. So if he had mind control and touched nathan then Peter would gain flight, but Nathan would get mind control, then if Peter touched Claire he would gain healing and she would get flight, etc... That would make for a fun few episodes until it all got sorted out.
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Old March 3 2009, 07:46 PM   #33
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Re: Heroes 3x18 "Exposed" Discuss and Grade

This episode gets an Average, subtract the Peter/Hiro Nerf Modifier and you get a Below Average. Arthur Petrelli was the worst thing that ever happened to this show. We've got a big government operation going on to capture people who can't bloody do anything!

Exactly what danger is a guy who can breathe under water supposed to be ? Or a girl who can heal from any injury ? Okay, Parkman might be a problem but he's the guy you hire, not kill.

This copying powers business is getting old fast as well. Nathan fell for the same trick twice now. Just give Peter his old power back, at least it was interesting seeing which one he'd use in each situation.

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The Peter only having one power at a time thing is working for me right now, but eventually he will need to get his original power back so he can have a big show down with Sylar. I imagine he will get get his power back when he touches Sylar and copies his power. Of course it would have been cool if Peters power really did switch powers with people. So if he had mind control and touched nathan then Peter would gain flight, but Nathan would get mind control, then if Peter touched Claire he would gain healing and she would get flight, etc... That would make for a fun few episodes until it all got sorted out.
They're not going to do that. Arthur Petrelli was introduced because the writers wrote themselves in to a hole and weren't talented or creative enough to get themselves out of it. They had someone who can travel through time and space and someone else who has the combined superpowers of many others and they can't write an interesting story about them ? They should quit the writing business and go sell shoes or something.

Oh, and Claire without her powers would be interesting right up until the point where she got a papercut and died from the infection - they've already explained that her body has absolutely no immune system beyond her powers because she's never been sick.
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Old March 3 2009, 08:23 PM   #34
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Re: Heroes 3x18 "Exposed" Discuss and Grade

These are the same people that ran season two and said the Hiro-in-Japan storyline went on too long, right? Well Sylar on his very long road trip is going nowhere fast now.
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Old March 3 2009, 08:29 PM   #35
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These are the same people that ran season two and said the Hiro-in-Japan storyline went on too long, right? Well Sylar on his very long road trip is going nowhere fast now.
The writing on this show is too obvious. They are purposefully keeping Sylar out of play. They need a reason why he would march up to Building 26 and bring the entire place down.

They've done this before. They gave him the virus to keep him out of the way during season two. They gave Hiro a "crisis of confidence" to keep him out of the way during season one. They took Peter's memories in season two to keep him out of the way.

This is because they lack the imagination to write stories that use the powers they have given their characters. They put a limit on Hiro's powers when he tried to save Charlie and failed. They put a limit on Peter's powers by saying he'd go nuclear if he tried to use too many at once. They had those pre-existing ways of saying why Hiro and Peter couldn't just resolve everything themselves but instead they panicked and in came Arthur Petrelli.

The good news is that they have Ando. Two seconds of face time with him and that problem is solved but they just won't do it because they are too dumb to see that this a major problem with their writing.
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Old March 3 2009, 08:32 PM   #36
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Wasn't the PuppetMan killed in the great escape from the Company's holding area? I seem to really recall him getting killed by Sylar in all the chaos of the escape.
Doyle was never shown to be killed by Sylar on screen. When they had their face off it looked like Sylar did something unseen and Doyle collapsed onto the ground.

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These are the same people that ran season two and said the Hiro-in-Japan storyline went on too long, right? Well Sylar on his very long road trip is going nowhere fast now.
It's not going to be going on for much longer.

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Old March 3 2009, 09:14 PM   #37
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So, is this the point where Fuller is supposed to have taken over the show?
No. His first episode is #20, this was #18.

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I agree, and I'll add that the puppeteer showing up was a nice surprise, which is rare on this show these days.
Yeah, I had forgotten about the puppeteer showing up when I posted my rating. It was a nice surprise and hopefully they do it justice next episode.
I'll give this an above average for the puppeteer twist and canine sandwich scenes.

Did the two agents hunting aquaman know what his power was? Maybe a cursory glance at the pool was all they thought they needed because Claire was tagging along with him and couldn't breathe underwater.

Fuller's impact will be felt starting with episode 20 then? And there are 24 episodes, I think, so it'll be interesting to see how the show changes.

Part of me wants another year, the other wants Fuller to create a new Trek series. Although Pushing up Daisies didn't fare too well, did it...
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Old March 3 2009, 11:16 PM   #38
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^I've been saying that since Season 2. Sylar's arc was done at the end of S1. This whole "redemption" bulls**t is only because Quinto's so popular, I'd bet money on it.
I disagree, Sylar's season 2 arc, particularly when he began to mentor Maya, and his season 1 motivations show that he could be a great Magneto-like villain, someone who does the wrong thing for the right reasons. He kills people who he feels are wasting their powers, so it is only right that he put his powers to practical use changing the world, and recruit others to his cause.

They had something going with the potential Sylar-Peter conflict, the cynic vs. the idealist, both trying to change the world, with the company and the government in the middle, trying to maintain the status quo.
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Old March 3 2009, 11:38 PM   #39
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So just one more Fuller-less episode left. I don't really see him having a huge impact on the show, though. I just went through the old credits and he only wrote TWO episodes in S1 and that's it! It was "Collision" and "Company Man". Or is it just his general guiding light we're hoping for? Interesting that he's only written 2 DS9 episodes and then a bunch of VOY stuff and nothing from TNG.
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Old March 4 2009, 01:38 AM   #40
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I think this show has gone as far as it can now, not watched any of this new chapter and have no intention of doing either.
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Old March 4 2009, 03:15 AM   #41
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For a Claire episode, it wasn't bad. Sandra continues to be one of the best and most underrated characters on the show. Peter actually used his brains tonight (an exceedingly rare occurrance) and Parkman did initially but he lost me at the end. When captured by the Hunter and in a desperate situation, Parkman, like the rest of the Heroes, REFUSES TO REVEAL THAT NATHAN HAS POWERS!!!

Come on! With the situation Paterman was in at the end, there's no way in hell he would have hidden that information from the Hunter. Anyone with a brain would have been screaming that at him at the top of their lungs. For some bizarre reason, every hero (or moron with powers) has decided that protecting Nathan is the most important thing in their life. Okay, so the Hunter might not believe him. But why is that stopping them from revealing the information and at least putting some suspicion on Nathan for a change? Apparently, they like being fugitives.

Surprised to see The Puppet Master return. That should be fun although I thought Sylar killed him.

Am I the only one who keeps expecting Luke to reveal that Sylar's dad is his dad and that him and Sylar are brothers?
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Old March 4 2009, 03:25 AM   #42
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That's as big a pipe dream as my wanting Nathan to actually get mad at Peter for shooting him last season.....or for the writers to script an explanation as to how Nathan survived.

Like I told you, Peter can get close enough to Nathan to end it. Drug him, hug him, fly him above a major media building, wait until he wakes up and then drop him. Nathan's not so committed to his job that he's going to go splat on the concrete. Simple solution.
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Old March 4 2009, 04:38 AM   #43
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^ I always assumed that Nathan survived because Peter had Linderman's healing power and didn't realize it. They were in the same room together in the flashback episode.
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Old March 4 2009, 06:21 AM   #44
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That's what I thought, that Peter inadvertently healed him without realizing it since he kissed his forehead, but the writers don't think so. They admitted that they left it "ambiguous." I don't need to be spoonfed everything, but a few answers might be nice.
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Old March 4 2009, 01:50 PM   #45
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Greg Grunberg has been Twittering some things he possibly shouldn't have.

Not sure if they're coming back next year.

Yes they are but some of the production staff might not be

Loads of numbers that don't really help the show

He love us viewers.

He has been misquoted.
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