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Old April 10 2009, 03:08 PM   #1
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Gary 7 spinoff?

My wife and I watched ASSIGNMENT EARTH last night, just before HELL's KITCHEN, and we really like that episode. We all know that it was a backdoor pilot to a possible spinoff show...but then I got to wondering; why? Even by the end of SEASON TWO, Star Trek was a ratings flop. And yet NBC was willing to roll the dice on a sequel?

I also wonder, had the GARY 7 show gone forward (and looked lot more cheaper to produce than TREK) if NBC would have just cancelled Season 3 and gone with Gary-7 and if Roddenberry would have been okay with that...my gut tells me "YES". Roddenberry would have thrown TREK under the bus if it meant he could do GARY 7 show.

What do you think???

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Old April 10 2009, 06:16 PM   #2
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You mean like this?
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Old April 10 2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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Re: Gary 7 spinoff?

Would you really say it was a "ratings flop"? My recollection is that while it didn't have great ratings, it wasn't a flop. If it had been a flop, no letter-writing campaign would have been enough to save it.
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Old April 10 2009, 06:59 PM   #4
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Would you really say it was a "ratings flop"? My recollection is that while it didn't have great ratings, it wasn't a flop. If it had been a flop, no letter-writing campaign would have been enough to save it.
I am not sure where I read this..but I think the highest rated episode of TREK was CITY..and it was like #28 or something like that. The show was almost cancelled because of low ratings and only the letter campaign saved it. But from what I have read through the years, shatner-nimoy books and others, it wasn't a hit in the way they gathered ratings in those days...

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Old April 10 2009, 07:31 PM   #5
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You mean like this?
Or maybe like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH8h_FxVWts
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Old April 10 2009, 08:11 PM   #6
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You mean like this?
Or maybe like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH8h_FxVWts
THAT is funny! Pretty good timing of the video with the theme music, too.
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Old April 10 2009, 08:14 PM   #7
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You mean like this?
Excellent mock-up of an Assignment Earth TV series intro. I couldn't find enough details from the comments about the theme music. I wonder if the submitter created it or borrowed it from some other period work. It definitely goes well with it... kind of a Man from U.N.C.L.E. flavor.

Personally, I think it would have been a good show if talented writers could have been found. Certainly the actors were "just right" for the roles. Plenty of material, especially with the Cold War still on. Kind of a "Mission Impossible" but with a "friendly alien" stepping in with superior technology to dispense with the baddies. And a little hint of James Bond, too.
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Old April 10 2009, 09:00 PM   #8
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You mean like this?
Excellent mock-up of an Assignment Earth TV series intro. I couldn't find enough details from the comments about the theme music. I wonder if the submitter created it or borrowed it from some other period work.
It's original music done by some very passionate fans. Here's a link. They also did a second version. What I find so good about them is that they sound like genuine 60s theme songs.
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Old April 10 2009, 09:02 PM   #9
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You mean like this?
Excellent mock-up of an Assignment Earth TV series intro. I couldn't find enough details from the comments about the theme music. I wonder if the submitter created it or borrowed it from some other period work.
It's original music done by some very passionate fans. Here's a link. They also did a second version. What I find so good about them is that they sound like genuine 60s theme songs.
That was pretty cool...I am really impressed with how imaginative some of us fans are...

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Old April 10 2009, 10:05 PM   #10
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Re: Gary 7 spinoff?

RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
My wife and I watched ASSIGNMENT EARTH last night, just before HELL's KITCHEN, and we really like that episode. We all know that it was a backdoor pilot to a possible spinoff show...but then I got to wondering; why? Even by the end of SEASON TWO, Star Trek was a ratings flop. And yet NBC was willing to roll the dice on a sequel?

I also wonder, had the GARY 7 show gone forward (and looked lot more cheaper to produce than TREK) if NBC would have just cancelled Season 3 and gone with Gary-7 and if Roddenberry would have been okay with that...my gut tells me "YES". Roddenberry would have thrown TREK under the bus if it meant he could do GARY 7 show.

What do you think???

Rob
IIRC, it was originally a show without a connection to Star Trek. Roddenberry reworked the pilot's script into a Star Trek episode as a way to sell the show to NBC. Sorta like changing Majel's hair color and recasting her in a different role after the network said dump her
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Old April 11 2009, 01:16 AM   #11
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Re: Gary 7 spinoff?

^That's what I understood to be the case, too.
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Old April 11 2009, 01:50 AM   #12
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^That's what I understood to be the case, too.
But if it had sold, had they used ASSIGNMENT EARTH as a 'pilot' and had sold it to NBC, I think TREK would have been cancelled,because of its cost, and they would have gone with GARY SEVEN simply because it looked like a cheaper show to do....

I contend that by not selling GARY SEVEN, STAR TREK got one year of life...even if it was the must derided season three...

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Old April 11 2009, 02:03 AM   #13
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But why would they have to pick one over the other?
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Old April 11 2009, 02:06 AM   #14
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Yeah, I'm sure Star Trek wasn't the only show NBC could have canceled that year.
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Old April 11 2009, 05:49 AM   #15
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But why would they have to pick one over the other?
Because, at that time, they had already axed TOS because its lack of ratings. Had they given Roddenberry a choice, one or the other, I think he would have ditched TOS for many reasons; budgets being one, and increasing friction between him and Shatner/Nimoy....sure, the letter campaign saved it for a third season..a third season that Roddenberry was MIA for and suffered in quality as well...

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