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View Poll Results: Grade the movie
A+ 49 16.78%
A 66 22.60%
A- 56 19.18%
B+ 34 11.64%
B 24 8.22%
B- 16 5.48%
C+ 13 4.45%
C 9 3.08%
C- 5 1.71%
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D 9 3.08%
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Old July 24 2009, 02:14 AM   #856
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I really enjoyed it, and I would've given it 9/10 if not for the.... choice.... of music during the Night Owl / Silk Spectre love scene.
It probably would have been best not to have any music during that. But Zack Snyder apparently wanted the scene to come off as ridiculous.

But I thought most of the song choices were great. Unforgettable during the part when Comedian getting beaten, The Times They Are A-Changin' during the opening, The Sound Of Silence during the Comedian's funeral, and All Along The Watchtower during the part when Nite Owl arrives in Antarctic were my favorites.
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Old July 24 2009, 02:46 AM   #857
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It's a major pain in the arse that the UK isn't getting the director's cut dvd.
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Old July 24 2009, 02:50 AM   #858
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It's a major pain in the arse that the UK isn't getting the director's cut dvd.
I can't believe Warners isn't releasing the DC in the UK. Hopefully they'll release it in the next few months.

I heard that the Watchmen Blu-Ray edition from the US works in the UK Blu-Ray players so fans have that option at least.
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Old July 24 2009, 07:29 AM   #859
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I feel bad for thinking Rorshack is my favorite character because I despise him. I only like him because he is proactive. So I like him on the same level that I like hurricanes because I believe they may be a way to test government responce time.
Well I'm not going to berate you for disliking the film. A movie like Watchmen was never going to please everyone, nor was it realistically destined for blockbuster status. I'm not sure how it can be seen as playing like a sequel, though.... Never mind.

What I'd rather speak about is the character of Rorschach. He's my favorite, as well. Despite the fact that he is a raving psychopath, he's also the one guy in the story who is all about the mission; the one guy who cares the most about truth, justice and morality. Whether or not his interpretation of these qualities is a bit skewed (and it is) is inconsequential. I like him for his uncompromising nature. Plus, there's that strangely endearing anti-hero detective mentality that we used to see from the likes of "Dirty" Harry Callahan and Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle.

I do think it sucks to high heaven that the UK is not getting the Director's Cut yet, if at all.
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Old July 24 2009, 10:22 PM   #860
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I feel bad for thinking Rorshack is my favorite character because I despise him. I only like him because he is proactive. So I like him on the same level that I like hurricanes because I believe they may be a way to test government responce time.
Well I'm not going to berate you for disliking the film. A movie like Watchmen was never going to please everyone, nor was it realistically destined for blockbuster status. I'm not sure how it can be seen as playing like a sequel, though.... Never mind.
I don't see how it can be considered a sequel either. Watchmen has it's own story. The flashbacks help develop the character but the thing that drives the story forward is the present mystery behind the death of the Comedian.

I think this is the first time I've heard anyone comparing Rorschach to weather.
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Old July 24 2009, 10:41 PM   #861
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I really enjoyed it, and I would've given it 9/10 if not for the.... choice.... of music during the Night Owl / Silk Spectre love scene.
It probably would have been best not to have any music during that. But Zack Snyder apparently wanted the scene to come off as ridiculous.

But I thought most of the song choices were great. Unforgettable during the part when Comedian getting beaten, The Times They Are A-Changin' during the opening, The Sound Of Silence during the Comedian's funeral, and All Along The Watchtower during the part when Nite Owl arrives in Antarctic were my favorites.
I liked Unforgettable during the beginning too. It just really worked. The montage, with the song, is still one of the things that really works about this film.
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Old July 24 2009, 10:57 PM   #862
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I liked Unforgettable during the beginning too. It just really worked. The montage, with the song, is still one of the things that really works about this film.
I liked that in the movie the Comedian actually tried to fight back. In the comic it seemed like he just stood there and let himself be killed by Veidt.
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Old July 24 2009, 11:03 PM   #863
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Mason's death scene was terrific! What a shame it was cut the first time around.

And it seems I'm the only person who doesn't have a problem with a song about sex actually playing during a sex scene... or do people just not pay attention to the lyrics???
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Old July 25 2009, 08:50 AM   #864
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Yeah, I decided not to get it now either, especially if they are indeed going to come out with some sort of deluxe edition by the end of the year.
I hope you know that the Ultimate Edition that's coming out this winter is the director's cut with the pirate cartoon added into the movie. I think that showing parts of the cartoon while the movie is going on will be horribly distracting so I'm not going to bother with it. The director's cut is the way to go for me.

I noticed that the Best Buy near me had nearly sold out of the Director's Edition when I went yesterday. I'm glad the movie is selling well.
My best buy was sold out of the director's cut, but that's okay... I was pleased with the Theatrical cut enough anyway, I still say they did a pretty decent job, any longer and I doubt people would have stayed that long. Honestly for all the talk about it being too violent and bloodthirsty and almost pornographic, I dunno... look at the Dark Knight. Look at half the rom-coms and other movies that show a helluva lot more sex or violence. Just because it was based on a comic book - and not really a 'comic book' but a graphic novel - a comic for ADULTS! Its not a movie meant for kids or even young teens. Its meant for adults who are mature enough to appreciate the story and moral backdrop.

I really would like to get the Ultimate Edition, and basically have a live action and animated version of the graphic novel - buuut... I think we've all offended Alan Moore enough LOL
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Old July 25 2009, 06:15 PM   #865
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HOLY CRAP BATMAN!!! The flick was AWESOME!!!With the exception of the kid reading the gross pirate story, they pretty much made the graphic novel come alive!!
The movie had me squirming in all the right places.
A few notes: much has been said concerning the nudity- big deal. Blue CGI wee-wees don't bug me.
It was violent in the excess- the fingers-thing was icky, but otherwise I didn't see anything so shocking. A little disturbing, maybe.
3 hours never went by so fast.
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I liked that in the movie the Comedian actually tried to fight back. In the comic it seemed like he just stood there and let himself be killed by Veidt.
I liked that he fought back too, but he knew he wasn't going to win.
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Old July 26 2009, 12:13 AM   #866
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It was violent in the excess- the fingers-thing was icky, but otherwise I didn't see anything so shocking. A little disturbing, maybe.
3 hours never went by so fast.
I thought that addition in the director's cut was more funny then gross. That scene was so over top and seemed like something out of 300. Talk about a crappy day for that woman!

I actually checked the time when I first watched the director's cut and was pleased that without the ending credits it was almost perfectly 3 hours. The part where Rorschach gets arrested and unmasked is about halfway through the movie and a good place to stop for those that want to watch the movie over two days.
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Old July 26 2009, 12:31 AM   #867
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I thought that addition in the director's cut was more funny then gross. That scene was so over top and seemed like something out of 300. Talk about a crappy day for that woman!
That was the ONLY part I would have left out- the close-up of the hand. It doesn't irk me, it was just unnecessary IMO.
Besides, I already saw it in Taxi Driver.
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Old July 26 2009, 01:07 AM   #868
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Yeah, the finger scene was definitely not needed.

Just finished watching it. It's hard to know exactly all the little additions in a movie that's over three hours long but I still enjoyed it. The montage during Hollis's death scene was great and the whole scene rocked in general, although those Knot Tops were indeed God awful actors. They used the same classical music score (don't know what it was) for Hollis's death that was used for the death of Michael Corleone. I'm glad the character of Hollis Mason got more screen time but if you want the full experience, buy the Tales of the Black Frieghter DVD with the excellent Under the Hood segment.

I can't believe no one has mentioned that Mr. Gaeta himself appears in this version, during the scenes where Laurie is questioned about Manhatten's disappearance. He's the guy who reveals Manhatten is on Mars and you see him going through charts like he used to do on BSG. That whole sequence made the scene alone.

I'm disappointed that they apparently didn't do the flashback where Laurie confronted Blake in Washington. Laurie's character suffered from having her hatred of Blake completely taken out of the film and Morgan was the best thing in Watchmen. No way you eliminate one of his scenes.
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Old July 26 2009, 02:22 AM   #869
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I can't believe no one has mentioned that Mr. Gaeta himself appears in this version, during the scenes where Laurie is questioned about Manhatten's disappearance. He's the guy who reveals Manhatten is on Mars and you see him going through charts like he used to do on BSG. That whole sequence made the scene alone.
I noticed the actor when I first saw it. It was a nice surprise. But I kept wondering why he wasn't using a cane to walk!
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Old July 26 2009, 02:23 AM   #870
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Here is a complete list of the added scenes from the director's cut for those wondering what was new:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/faq#.2.1.52
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