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Old February 23 2009, 05:42 AM   #1
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What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

Where should the story arc go after Quantum of Solace tied up most of the loose ends begun in Casino Royale? MI6 has captured an important Quantum operative alive, while Bond took photos of Quantum's inner circle, but how would that help against Quantum itself, a global syndicate that is far more strategically dangerous than M first anticipated?

Will Bond or MI6 in general be subjected to concentrated reprisals like in From Russia in Love, or will they try to foil a world threatening plot hatched by Quantum similar to Thunderball's?

Quantum is a very quiet, wheels within wheels syndicate who mostly uses proxies (whether organized crime, terrorists or rogue regimes) to do their dirty work. They do this so they can make money, SPECTRE wants to make money as well, but trying to start WWIII on behalf of Red China would be detrimental to carrying on making money.

Quantum wants to exploit the world rather than destroy it, so although they could feasibly get more tactically aggressive by decapitating Britain's government they're likely not exterminationists like Stromberg or Drax (as far as we can tell).

And as much as I miss the Ken Adam sets from the 60s and 70s, I don't want a Quantum volcano lair, but instead Quantum operating out of a lair similar to MI6's operations centre but located within or beneath a corporate front (maybe a hotel/casino/leisure chain like Mr. Linderman's organization from Heroes?).
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Old February 23 2009, 05:56 AM   #2
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

I want a Moonbase with fricken laserbeams.

Is that so much to ask for?
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Old February 23 2009, 06:09 AM   #3
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Can Judi Dench be killed off yet?

They used up all of Casino Royale's baggage except for Mr. White, who isn't all that interesting.
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Old February 23 2009, 07:55 AM   #4
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I wouldn't mind seeing another "We have to stop Quantum" story, but it needs to be heavily 60s inspired.
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Old February 23 2009, 08:18 AM   #5
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

Car chases, shagging, fights, shagging, explosions, shagging, gunfire, shagging, clever quips and shagging.
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Old February 23 2009, 06:20 PM   #6
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

TedShatner10 wrote: View Post
Where should the story arc go after Quantum of Solace tied up most of the loose ends begun in Casino Royale?
It shouldn't- there should be a standalone with DC going on his first mission as the Bond we know and love (CR and QoS having been about making him that character), which is pretty much what Craig has - well, not *said*, but consistently implied - we're going to get next time.
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Old February 23 2009, 06:31 PM   #7
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

The whole Quantum angle was built up with the last film that I'd be surprised if they didn't bring 'em back. Mr. White, as well.
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Old February 23 2009, 06:49 PM   #8
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

I imagine the Quantum arc will continue in some form (even if it isn't a huge part of the story).
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Old February 23 2009, 10:02 PM   #9
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Oh, they'll be back - but I suspect they'll save them as a main part until Bond 24.
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Old February 23 2009, 10:03 PM   #10
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I reckon we'll get Q and/or Moneypenny, there will be a stand alone villain with a somewhat convoltuted plan...in the end I'll imagine the villain will be tied to Quantum, but I don't expect Quantum to be made a huge deal of...just yet...
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Old February 24 2009, 01:53 AM   #11
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All I want is a better villain this time, the last one SUCKED.
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Old February 24 2009, 03:10 PM   #12
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Re: What Should Happen in Bond 23? [Spoilers]

I partially agree, Dominic Greene was just an oil slick fixer and would've worked better as a secondary henchman along the lines of Mr. Osato, and Greene served a similar role to Mr. Osato in the Quantum syndicate. Just a cog in a bigger, deadlier machine, which was why I wasn't fussed with Greene being mostly unremarkable.

I kinda of want the next plot to be more about a race between Quantum and MI6 over a top secret McGuffin located in Red China.
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Old February 24 2009, 10:01 PM   #13
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What should happen?

How about I get James Bond and not Jason Bourne 2.0 for starters. That'd be nice.
We can then work from there.
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Old February 24 2009, 11:44 PM   #14
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How about I get James Bond and not Jason Bourne 2.0 for starters. That'd be nice.
We can then work from there.
So you want an invisible car, Bond in space fighting with laser guns, scenery-chewing mustache-twirling villains, lots and lots of jokes and comedy sketches, yet another of the endless threats-to-destroy-the-world, lots of stunt casting, big fight scenes with very obvious stunt doubles and quips and jokes between punches, and a plot that's exactly the same as 15 or so of the previous movies?

Check.

Personally I'd rather see a movie that actually captures the spirit of Ian Fleming's literary 007 character and is a modern espionage thriller, like we saw with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, rather than yet another tired, dated action-comedy like Die Another Day, The World Is Not Enough, and, well, most of the rest of the previous Bond movies.
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Old February 24 2009, 11:51 PM   #15
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How about I get James Bond and not Jason Bourne 2.0 for starters. That'd be nice.
We can then work from there.
So you want an invisible car, Bond in space fighting with laser guns, scenery-chewing mustache-twirling villains, lots and lots of jokes and comedy sketches, yet another of the endless threats-to-destroy-the-world, lots of stunt casting, big fight scenes with very obvious stunt doubles and quips and jokes between punches, and a plot that's exactly the same as 15 or so of the previous movies?

Check.

Personally I'd rather see a movie that actually captures the spirit of Ian Fleming's literary 007 character and is a modern espionage thriller, like we saw with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, rather than yet another tired, dated action-comedy like Die Another Day, The World Is Not Enough, and, well, most of the rest of the previous Bond movies.
Well since you trotted all the worst aspects to bolster your point as if each was featured in every Bond movie heavily.
Moonraker, Die Another Day and a few others did over do it.

However, a good Bond movie that is still Bond is evident in Thunderball, Goldfinger, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, The Spy Who Loved Me, and Goldeneye.

Sadly the literary Bond to which you want made it to screen as Jason Bourne. Which are fine movies with their own identity(no pun intended) and cinematic Bond has its own identity which the best of, imo, I listed.
You should be out petitioning Damon and Greengrass for more Bourne.
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