STNG continues on in Bluray..with great packaging! - Page 5

JoeZhang · April 17 2009, 05:17 PM

standard definition (720x576 pixels PAL video)

What's the advantage of buying this on bluray?

Tomalak · April 17 2009, 05:33 PM

Possibly the episodes have been encoded at a higher bit-rate, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Most likely it's a cynical marketing campaign to cash in on the new movie, and make the fans think they are buying something new.

gaghyogi49 · April 19 2009, 07:46 PM

This was just an April's fool joke from treknews.de, nothing has been announced about a TNG Blu-Ray release.

jefferiestubes8 · April 19 2009, 08:10 PM

gaghyogi49 wrote:

This was just an April's fool joke from treknews.de, nothing has been announced about a TNG Blu-Ray release.

I just checked the date and checked the hdtvtotal.com link for forum and sure enough:

you have been fooled
http://www.hdtvtotal.com/module-pageset ... -1313.html is a hoax

thanks gaghyogi49.

trevanian · April 29 2009, 02:54 AM

Tomalak wrote:

Geckothan wrote:

TNG would look pretty bad in HD. It looks bad enough on DVD, very blurry, it's hard to describe but you all know what I mean. Hell, I'd say the unremastered versions of TOS are crisper (though certainly far more scratchy and grainy). Would love to see them do a good job of it though without having to redo all of the effects (unless they can keep them true to the original effects, unlike TOSR which I kinda disliked).

It only looks bad because it was posted on low-res NTSC video, so it would be very surprising if the TOS DVDs didn't look better. If they could go back to the original 35mm negatives, TNG could look amazing.
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Even there it wouldn't really compare, something that will be evident with VGER and DS9 too. ModernTrek was shot on much faster and less-rich looking stocks than TOS, and that is going to be even more evident with the best transfer. Look at some gorgeous Ted Moore shot pic like MAN FOR ALL SEASONS, then look at pics from the late 70s that are available light or with highspeed film ... no comparison.

jefferiestubes8 · May 6 2009, 04:34 AM

TNG on Blu-ray has a ASIN# since December.

Target & Amazon.com both have listings.

http://www.target.com/Star-Trek-Next...eration&page=1

Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987 TV Series) [Blu-ray]
# ASIN: B0019NG7SQ
# Item can be gift wrapped.
# Studio: Paramount

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Next.../dp/B0019NG7SQ

Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987 TV Series) [Blu-ray]
ASIN: B0019NG7SQ
Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only.
Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available.

I know it doesn't mean much but at least we can have some hope.

Tomalak · May 6 2009, 02:13 PM

Amazon often leave placeholders for things that haven't actually been announced and don't even exist, so it might not mean anything. I don't know anything about Target, but I imagine it could be the same.

RAMA · June 22 2009, 01:29 AM

jefferiestubes8 wrote:

swaaye wrote:
Eden FX's Gabriel Köerner built a new CGI LightWave model for the Enterprise-D in 2004.

swaaye see this:

small design differences than the original TNG CGI NCC-1701-D then check out Enterprise-D's appearance in Star Trek: Enterprise's series finale, "These Are the Voyages..." for a pretty good idea (even if only in standard def.)

from the above post
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?...5&postcount=21

This is what CGI can do....it keeps the lines of the 6ft model with the detail of the 4ft model....excellent!!!

RAMA

SoM · June 22 2009, 01:41 AM

jefferiestubes8 wrote:

It probably is unlikely that the CGI effects projects themselves from 1987-1994 were archived....

EH? TNG used models and other non-digital means for 99.9% of the effects. It wasn't until the late-DS9 era that they started using CGI to any extent, and it wasn't until very late VOY or even the start of ENT before they went 100% digital.

Trekker4747 · June 22 2009, 09:35 AM

RAMA wrote:

jefferiestubes8 wrote:

swaaye wrote:
Eden FX's Gabriel Köerner built a new CGI LightWave model for the Enterprise-D in 2004.

swaaye see this:

small design differences than the original TNG CGI NCC-1701-D then check out Enterprise-D's appearance in Star Trek: Enterprise's series finale, "These Are the Voyages..." for a pretty good idea (even if only in standard def.)

from the above post
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?...5&postcount=21

This is what CGI can do....it keeps the lines of the 6ft model with the detail of the 4ft model....excellent!!!

RAMA

The thing that bugs me about this model, and really Gabriel should've known this, is that the saucer impulse engines are only on in seperated flight mode. They were always off during connected flight.

Admiral Pike · June 22 2009, 11:01 AM

It's a FAAAAAAAKE!

JJohnson · October 8 2011, 11:21 PM

jefferiestubes8 wrote:

Tomalak wrote:

I'd rather they built a new one from scratch, based exactly on the six footer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't all of the visual ship shots since ST: TNG (Voyager, DS9, and feature films since 1995) been done as CGI-only?

I have not yet seen the 'Red Alert: Visual Effects' (for the pilot) hosted by Visual Effects Supervisor Dan Curry' special feature on ST:VOY season 1 DVD.

There may have been a models built for the TNG feature films but sticking to this thread if they remaster ST:TNG and recreate all of the ship shots and visual effects I can assure you it is easier for them to do ALL of them in CGI for consistency. The animators could just refer to the original show for camera angle and ship movement.
Even if they could locate the original camera negative of the 6ft. ship model for each shot and telecine to HD and then adding the CGI stars and phasers anyway would negate using the film source to do it in a timely manner.

If at all possible, going full CG with the Enterprise D would be great. They can give many more shots of the ship for variety, at warp, going into orbit, in battle...

Captain Fine · October 9 2011, 12:10 AM

Way to revive a thread from two years ago! lol

Holdfast · October 9 2011, 12:15 AM

Captain Fine wrote:

Way to revive a thread from two years ago! lol

yeah agreed... wasn't really needed, given the other existing current threads.

April 17 2009, 05:33 PM	#62
Tomalak Vice Admiral Location: Liverpool	Re: STNG continues on in Bluray..with great packaging! Possibly the episodes have been encoded at a higher bit-rate, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Most likely it's a cynical marketing campaign to cash in on the new movie, and make the fans think they are buying something new.

April 19 2009, 07:46 PM	#63
gaghyogi49 Lieutenant Commander Location: Germany	Re: STNG continues on in Bluray..with great packaging! This was just an April's fool joke from treknews.de, nothing has been announced about a TNG Blu-Ray release.

May 6 2009, 02:13 PM	#67
Tomalak Vice Admiral Location: Liverpool	Re: Blu-ray Amazon often leave placeholders for things that haven't actually been announced and don't even exist, so it might not mean anything. I don't know anything about Target, but I imagine it could be the same.

June 22 2009, 11:01 AM	#71
Admiral Pike Lieutenant Location: Wherever you go, there you are	Re: STNG continues on in Bluray..with great packaging! It's a FAAAAAAAKE!

October 9 2011, 12:10 AM	#73
Captain Fine Fleet Captain Location: Toronto, ON	Re: STNG continues on in Bluray..with great packaging! Way to revive a thread from two years ago! lol __________________ Formerly known as RegentWorf. But after seven years on this BBS, I went into pine farr and regenerated into Captain Fine.

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