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Old November 12 2009, 05:42 PM   #2596
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Re: A Semi-Hater Revisits Voyager

Cold can make it tough to hold to your convictions, can't it?

I have no such objections, but I have one friend who does and her position is that meat comes from the meat tree. So you could say that your gloves were made from the bark of the leather tree.
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Old November 12 2009, 05:48 PM   #2597
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Cold can make it tough to hold to your convictions, can't it?
It's not easy to be a biological humanoid. Our bodies often fail us ethically.

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I have no such objections, but I have one friend who does and her position is that meat comes from the meat tree. So you could say that your gloves were made from the bark of the leather tree.
Works for me!
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Old November 14 2009, 04:17 AM   #2598
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Eh, Leather is no good in the cold. I'd say stick to velvet or just fabric gloves, or cotton wool.

But yeah, Janeway in "Living Witness" was more sexualized than a lesbian. I even thought that line about "why do you always keep me waiting" to EvilSmile!Tuvok had something deeper to it.
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Old November 14 2009, 05:16 PM   #2599
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"EvilSmile!Tuvok."

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Old November 14 2009, 05:46 PM   #2600
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That scene alone is what made me accept that idea in my VOY rewrite for Tuvok being more unsettling and cold, because I knew for myself that Tim Russ could pull it off.

By the way, have you reading the rewrite? What do you think of it so far?
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Old December 7 2009, 03:53 AM   #2601
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A lot of those ratings are BS. While Voyager failed to live up to its premise, there's no denying that it had a lot of very enjoyable episodes that do not deserve the ratings given to them by GodBen.
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Old December 7 2009, 06:00 AM   #2602
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A lot of those ratings are BS. While Voyager failed to live up to its premise, there's no denying that it had a lot of very enjoyable episodes that do not deserve the ratings given to them by GodBen.
It occurs to me that you could make your own ratings thread instead of complaining about someone else's opinion.
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Old December 7 2009, 04:34 PM   #2603
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Yes! This thread was saved from oblivion and now has the chance to go over the 100,000 view mark! Thank you You_Guyz!

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A lot of those ratings are BS. While Voyager failed to live up to its premise, there's no denying that it had a lot of very enjoyable episodes that do not deserve the ratings given to them by GodBen.
It sure did, and it had some of the all-time great Trek episodes such as Living Witness, Scorpion, Timeless, Meld... all classics. But I feel it had far too much guff in too many episodes for me to get into it. If you'd like to read my opinions of Enterprise (plug warning!) I have a thread in the Enterprise forum you can read, I'm just about to start watching the exciting conclusion to the Xindi arc, so that should be fun. And if you're planning to stick around I'll be starting DS9 in about a month and that should also be fun.
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Old December 7 2009, 04:43 PM   #2604
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A lot of those ratings are BS. While Voyager failed to live up to its premise, there's no denying that it had a lot of very enjoyable episodes that do not deserve the ratings given to them by GodBen.
Sure there is. Opinions differ about stuff. To you VOY's a mite better than it is to GodBen, to still others it could be considerably worse. This is just one's view.

There's no calf so golden that it can't be knocked down by Charlton Heston and some primitive 1950s SFX as Elmer Bernstein's score pompously resounds, if I may coin a phrase.
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Old December 8 2009, 06:24 AM   #2605
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Season 3 was better than Godben gives it credit for ....
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Old December 8 2009, 02:54 PM   #2606
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100,010 views!! Suck it Voyager fans!

So when does T'Bonz give me the medal and box of Cuban cigars?

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Season 3 was better than Godben gives it credit for ....
Oh I'd strongly disagree with that, season 3 made me want to give up. It had some good episodes, but I think that was the season where the show went in completely the wrong direction and was content to be a TNG clone.
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Old December 8 2009, 03:35 PM   #2607
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100,010 views!! Suck it Voyager fans!
I'll pass, thanks. But congrats on your glorious achievement.
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Old December 8 2009, 04:41 PM   #2608
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So when does T'Bonz give me the medal and box of Cuban cigars?
They've all been smoked. That's all I know.
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Old December 8 2009, 04:51 PM   #2609
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Even the medal?
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Old December 8 2009, 04:52 PM   #2610
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Season 3 was better than Godben gives it credit for ....
Season 3? Never heard of it.

(My avatar's from what?)

But yeah, I mainly remember S3 for the episodes I liked - "Warlord" and "Darklight" such. "Worst Case Scenario" was pretty awesome just right before it became a malfunction episode (then it collapses) and "Scorpion" was the best season finale of the series. Then there was that episode where a Vulcan wanted to do Torres. Frustrating!

Granted, I haven't seen the season in years, I vaguely remember "Rise" (I don't want to remember "Rise", I think) and I have a selective memory when it comes to all of Trek's seasons - TOS S3 is the year of "The Enterprise Incident" and "The Tholian Web".
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