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Old February 8 2009, 11:03 PM   #16
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Re: Of Crossovers and Fictional Universes

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Sure, I don't see why not, especially since he was a memorable guest star in both. Add that to Frank Black's appearance in an X-Files episode, and I think that pretty much states that the two shows are definitely set in the same universe.
Except for that one episode of Millennium where they were watching The X-Files.
Really? Huh, I don't remember that, but it's been years since I've watched Millennium. What episode was it?
Wasn't there an Xfiles episode where someone was making a tv show/movie about Scully and Muldar's adventures a la Wormhole Extreme on SG-1? That might explain things. But if you really want to know about Crossovers-go here:

http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html

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Old February 9 2009, 02:42 AM   #17
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Re: Of Crossovers and Fictional Universes

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Well it's like Medical Investigation and Third Watch are within the same universe, as there was an episode of the former that featured Yokas and others of the cast.

Seems that TV shows will do whatever seems to fit at time and not care for long-term consequences.
Long term being that it looks like the additional seasons of Third Watch won't be on DVD and A&E doesn't show the conclusion. Third Watch also has an ER crossover.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:16 AM   #18
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i love crossovers i wish they are more! i ready like a star trek star war 1
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Old February 9 2009, 04:21 AM   #19
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I’m aware that the character Jose Chung appears in one episode in both series but does that even count as a crossover?
Sure, I don't see why not, especially since he was a memorable guest star in both. Add that to Frank Black's appearance in an X-Files episode, and I think that pretty much states that the two shows are definitely set in the same universe.
Not to mention that the Cigarette-Smoking Man clearly knew about the Millennium Group, as a pack of Morley's is evident in the second season finale two-parter when Peter Watts is in the archives.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:29 AM   #20
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So Without a Trace is not set in the CSI verse NY, and what do you know CSI has a spin-off in NY, and the same season as the crossover NY has "the cabbie killer" on CSI NY, bringing the city to a halt and scaring people from taxis, massive amount of news inches/minutes given to the taxi killer, yet he is never mentioned on Without a Trace.
There's no mention of it because the C.S.I. New York people dealt with it in time. They're just that good. Duh.

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I’m aware that the character Jose Chung appears in one episode in both series but does that even count as a crossover?
Sure, I don't see why not, especially since he was a memorable guest star in both. Add that to Frank Black's appearance in an X-Files episode, and I think that pretty much states that the two shows are definitely set in the same universe.
Except for that one episode of Millennium where they were watching The X-Files.
That problem crops up all the time. Similarly, we've seen episodes of The X-Files where The Simpsons is on in the background. Yet Mulder & Scully were once on The Simpsons. Also, there was a Mad About You episode in which we learned that Kramer from Seinfeld moved into Paul's old apartment. And yet, in Seinfeld, there are references to Mad About You as a TV show.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:34 AM   #21
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Sure, I don't see why not, especially since he was a memorable guest star in both. Add that to Frank Black's appearance in an X-Files episode, and I think that pretty much states that the two shows are definitely set in the same universe.
Except for that one episode of Millennium where they were watching The X-Files.
Really? Huh, I don't remember that, but it's been years since I've watched Millennium. What episode was it?
There was a season 3 episode of Millennium where Emma Hollis was zeroing in on a suspect in a shady apartment building, where we heard though the door of another apartment the audio from the previous week's episode of The X-Files.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:43 AM   #22
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^ not a fan of either show and never seen Millennium, but gees you would think when one show is a spin-off of the other, they could keep from making those kinds of mistakes.

that said Doctor Who pulled the same trick on itself once, so maybe I shouldnt judge X Files so harshly
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Old February 9 2009, 05:18 AM   #23
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As David Simon said, discussing John Munch's cameo on the Wire, it's all fiction. Let's not get too worked up in the details of shows that are linked through several lines of succession to one another. That's my view, anyway. Didn't Munch reference the X-Files on Homicide before he ended up showing up in "The Unusual Suspects," anyway?
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Old February 9 2009, 12:43 PM   #24
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Apparently, all of the David Kelly shows - L.A. Law, Picket Fences, Chicago Hope, The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public, Boston Legal, Legally Mad, and others - exist in a shared universe.

The Buffalo Muffins woman that lived in the trailer park with Jay on Wonderfalls was in one of the last episodes of Pushing Daisies - the cook-off episode.

I've sometimes thought it would be incredibly neat if the networks could cooperate on a project to have Scott Bakula take the place of one actor in a role on various shows on different channels, ala Quantum Leap, as a lead up to a Quantum Leap movie.
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Old February 9 2009, 01:38 PM   #25
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Apparently, all of the David Kelly shows - L.A. Law, Picket Fences, Chicago Hope, The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public, Boston Legal, Legally Mad, and others - exist in a shared universe.

The Buffalo Muffins woman that lived in the trailer park with Jay on Wonderfalls was in one of the last episodes of Pushing Daisies - the cook-off episode.

I've sometimes thought it would be incredibly neat if the networks could cooperate on a project to have Scott Bakula take the place of one actor in a role on various shows on different channels, ala Quantum Leap, as a lead up to a Quantum Leap movie.

But what if he leapt into T'Pol or Mayweather or even Phlox?
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Old February 9 2009, 03:17 PM   #26
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It almost did happen. Sam was at one point supposed to leap into Magnum, PI, but legal issues killed it, and they wrote the Lee Harvey Oswald story instead.
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Old February 9 2009, 08:50 PM   #27
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There was a season 3 episode of Millennium where Emma Hollis was zeroing in on a suspect in a shady apartment building, where we heard though the door of another apartment the audio from the previous week's episode of The X-Files.
Oh, okay. Personally, I'd consider that more of an inside-joke that was not meant to be taken seriously by the showrunners. So I still think don't there's any major problems in the notion that they take place in the same universe.
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Old February 10 2009, 01:55 AM   #28
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that said Doctor Who pulled the same trick on itself once, so maybe I shouldnt judge X Files so harshly
When did Doctor Who do that?

Speaking of, I just watched the pilot episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures. At one point, the hosts of Blue Peter make a cameo. And yet Blue Peter is a TV series that has frequently done segments about Doctor Who (the parent series of The Sarah Jane Adventures).

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Apparently, all of the David Kelly shows - L.A. Law, Picket Fences, Chicago Hope, The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public, Boston Legal, Legally Mad, and others - exist in a shared universe.
And, IIRC, Picket Fences did a crossover episode with The X-Files, which would also set all of those David E. Kelly shows into a common universe with The Lone Gunmen, Millennium, Homicide, and Law & Order.
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Old February 10 2009, 02:04 AM   #29
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that said Doctor Who pulled the same trick on itself once, so maybe I shouldnt judge X Files so harshly
When did Doctor Who do that?

Speaking of, I just watched the pilot episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures. At one point, the hosts of Blue Peter make a cameo. And yet Blue Peter is a TV series that has frequently done segments about Doctor Who (the parent series of The Sarah Jane Adventures).
obviously the Blue Peter of the Who verse, would not do features on Doctor Who, in the same way that the Blue Peter of our reality never promoted Bubble Shock

anyways in "Rememberance of the Daleks"

An apparent meta-reference to the show happens in one scene, the first and so far only explicit one in the show's history. A television screen shows a BBC Television caption of the period with a continuity announcer saying "This is BBC television, the time is quarter past five and Saturday viewing continues with an adventure in the new science fiction series Doc—", but is cut off by a scene change before completing the title.
(quoting from wikipedia, but its true)
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Old February 10 2009, 03:03 AM   #30
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It almost did happen. Sam was at one point supposed to leap into Magnum, PI, but legal issues killed it, and they wrote the Lee Harvey Oswald story instead.

That continues to bother me, as one of THE great missed opportunities.

I probably would've died from geek-overload, though.


I still think it is very strange indeed that Dexter, Burn Notice and CSI: Miami all "exist" in the same town without running into each other. That cries out for a crossover, damn it.
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