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Old February 7 2009, 06:43 AM   #1
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Is it fair?

That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie while all the others had to go through either a 3 or 7 year run on TV before they hit the silver screen?

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Old February 7 2009, 07:11 AM   #2
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They got the gig. Seems fair enough to me.
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Old February 7 2009, 07:14 AM   #3
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Re: Is it fair?

is it fair to inflict several years of poor pay and bad hair onto the actors just so they can get a series of movies?

Look at TNG....most of their movies barely earned their money back. I think Nemesis actually failed to earn its money back.

First Contact was the only one that really earned anything.

The TOS movies did better.
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Old February 7 2009, 07:18 AM   #4
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Since when is life ever fair?
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Old February 7 2009, 08:08 AM   #5
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Re: Is it fair?

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That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie while all the others had to go through either a 3 or 7 year run on TV before they hit the silver screen?

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Nah, I don't really see it as an issue at all. You have to start somewhere, whether it be a movie screen or a TV screen. Both require hard work, dedication and real talent if you want to be successful.


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Old February 7 2009, 08:11 AM   #6
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They got the gig. Seems fair enough to me.
Oddly enough, I have to agree. With acting jobs, fair's got less than nothing to do with anything.

Actually, that's true of of life in general.
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Old February 7 2009, 08:29 AM   #7
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Since when is life ever fair?
That's one good point.

For another...

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That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie while all the others had to go through either a 3 or 7 year run on TV before they hit the silver screen?
...there is no 3- or 7-year TV run in the offing. CBS-Paramount Television is not interested in making or airing a new Star Trek series at this time. Paramount Pictures -- for all practical purposes a separate entity -- is interested in making and putting on the big screens a movie (and is doing so now) so that's what we're getting.

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I'm really not sure what there is to discuss. At this point, the very same question has been asked and answered again and again, and the answer continues to be exactly the same: we're not going to get a series (unless the animated one somehow comes back from its current limbo); we are getting a movie. Debating whether or not that's fair is kind of an empty exercise.
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Old February 7 2009, 09:00 AM   #8
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Re: Is it fair?

That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie
You are aware that just about all of these actors already have at least a few films under their belts? I don't think this is anyone's "first movie".

Or are you trying to say that you think its unfair that their first Star Trek movie is a... um... well... a Star Trek movie?!? 'Cause it would be damn difficult for it to be anything else.
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Old February 7 2009, 11:23 AM   #9
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That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie
You are aware that just about all of these actors already have at least a few films under their belts? I don't think this is anyone's "first movie".

Or are you trying to say that you think its unfair that their first Star Trek movie is a... um... well... a Star Trek movie?!? 'Cause it would be damn difficult for it to be anything else.
I think what is trying to say is that instead of having a series they get to start in the star trek universe on the silver screen. Where as Picard and friends, and Kirk and friends had to deal with being on TV before getting to the silver screen. I think the problem with the argument is that TV actors seem less willing these days to go from TV to SS, and visa versa for movie actors.
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Old February 7 2009, 11:30 AM   #10
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I think the problem with the argument is that TV actors seem less willing these days to go from TV to SS, and visa versa for movie actors.
Huh? I don't know a TV actor who won't take a movie gig if he can get it, and the idea of "stepping down" to television, while still there for the biggest movie stars, is much less than it used to be. Most actors are just looking for a good role, no matter where it is.

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Old February 7 2009, 12:03 PM   #11
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Doing TV isn't really a step down anymore. Granted, you know Kiefer Sutherland (24), Harvey Keitel (Life on Mars), Jeff Goldblum (Law & Order: Criminal Intent) and a few others would never have been on TV if their movie careers hadn't faded. Of course you'd rather spend 18 hours a day for three straight months to make one movie for a $10 million paycheck and take the next nine months off, but that's not to say TV can't be satisfying for an actor.

If you're on a great show, you'll have several episodes a year that are as well-written as a top notch movie. And if you're on a juggernaut, you can make seven figures per episode. When Noah Wylie was getting $1 million per episode on ER, that's $22 million over 8-9 months he wouldn't have gotten from movies.

The biggest drawback is the audience members who have tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing the actors as anything other than their TV role.
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Old February 7 2009, 01:12 PM   #12
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Weird and pointless thread in my opinion... M'Sharak's response pretty much sums it up.
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Old February 7 2009, 04:21 PM   #13
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darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie while all the others had to go through either a 3 or 7 year run on TV before they hit the silver screen?

Discuss !
So, are you suggesting that Paramount/CBS should first create a TV series starring Pine, Quinto, Urban, et al just to be fair to Shatner, Nimoy, Stewart and the others?
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Old February 7 2009, 04:55 PM   #14
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That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie
You are aware that just about all of these actors already have at least a few films under their belts? I don't think this is anyone's "first movie".

Or are you trying to say that you think its unfair that their first Star Trek movie is a... um... well... a Star Trek movie?!? 'Cause it would be damn difficult for it to be anything else.
I think what is trying to say is that instead of having a series they get to start in the star trek universe on the silver screen. Where as Picard and friends, and Kirk and friends had to deal with being on TV before getting to the silver screen. I think the problem with the argument is that TV actors seem less willing these days to go from TV to SS, and visa versa for movie actors.
Yes, that is it, exactly. I'm not saying they are bad actors/actresses or anything of that nature, and in fact I don't really care if they started Star Trek in the SS while the others started with a series (and I do realize too that there is no TV offering at this point) it was a question I had. I asked because the original actors had to make their way through a series, then animated series before entering the silver screen. That's all.
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Old February 7 2009, 05:05 PM   #15
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So?
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