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The Wounded
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Location: UK
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Re: the reference to the earlier episode The High Ground: As far as I know, it was never banned in Ireland, but it was omitted from BBC runs until about a year ago (that's the main British network that was running TNG first time round, but not all British runs, as it was shown on the satellite channel Sky1, and released on video). The background is that, as of 1990, the UK government had brought in a law banning broadcasts 'that promoted terrorism', which was meant to stop IRA spokemen broadcasting - the news programmes got round this by interviewing them and then getting an actor to redub what they'd said and broadcasting the interview with the over-dubbed voice, which due to a loophole in the law, wasn't banned. (I know that makes little sense, but none of this did, even at the time). So, the BBC played legal tricks like that to get round the ban in news coverage, but still dropped that TNG episode, presumably because it didn't reckon a passing reference in an imported SF series was worth the trouble it might possibly cause.
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Last edited by Dream; January 24 2009 at 12:06 PM. |
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I LOVE this episode. An underrated gem. Things to note: 1. The introduction of the Cardassians. Who knew that this species would become a key element to much of the Star Trek saga, which of course led to the introduction of the Bajorans, and the rest is history. I found it refreshing to meet a species that was not yet another "huge" threat to the Federation, but was a thorn in its side nonetheless. It just makes the Star Trek universe seem more realistically diverse. Let's face it, they seemed somewhat technologically inferior, seeing as how a lone virtually defenseless Nebula-class starship was kicking Galor-class ass left, right, and center. Plus, you have Mark Alaimo as a proto-Gul Dukat, one of the finest Trek villains EVER. 2. Finally a great character episode for Miles O'Brien, plus some nice Keiko moments. It's great seeing indepth scenes with married couples together on the Enterprise. There's supposed to be all these families onboard, but we never got to see enough of that. 3. The episode is a thoughtful commentary on what war can do to people, even a decorated, veteran starship captain. The touching "Minstrel Boy" scene is a classic. You can imagine Captain Maxwell as having once been a heroic figure like Kirk or Picard, but for whom things just went REALLY badly: "I'm not going to win this one, am I chief?" "No, sir". 4. Picard vs. Gul Macet. I loved the political intrigue, something that up till now had been lacking somewhat in TNG. "Take this message to your leaders, Gul Macet...we'll be watching." Utterly badass.
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Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK
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Location: Here, frozen between time and place, not even the brightest lights escape...
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Captain
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On a side note, I wasn't aware that the BBC have ever shown The High Ground. It was banned by the BBC all through the 90's, and as far as I know, the BBC haven't had the rights to show any TNG other than seasons 6 and 7 for a number of years. They occasionally stick a double bill on about 1am on a Friday night/Sat morning. Gone are the good old days of BBC2 on a Wednesday evening at 6pm. But to be honest, the copies of TNG which the BBC have are such poor quality, I'd rather watch them on DVD. |
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Commodore
Location: Chicago
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Vice Admiral
Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor
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As I've said in numerous other threads...it's not JUST Macet who contributes to this. It's the entire triad. Macet, for his part, reads like a more levelheaded version of Dukat--I know the episode review refers to him as being untrustworthy (and I am probably biased between the DS9-R's take on him, plus my own work on the character in Sigils and Unions), but he struck me as someone stuck between a rock and a hard place: wanting peace but also being required out of duty to keep the Federation from stumbling onto a rearming effort that he may not have agreed with. Later "political players" like Legate Turrel I think would be based on Macet. There's Telle, that I think became the Cardassian stereotype: arrogant, duplicitous (though thuggish in his particular case), xenophobic, and I kind of suspect able to commit acts of brutality without the blink of an eye. And then there's Daro. MAN...talk about underappreciated character right there. For someone who had just a few lines compared to Macet, he was the one that just blew me away. Quieter, thoughtful, and, it seems, deeply haunted by the past, though Daro seems more withdrawn, he reminds me of Japanese WWII pilot Saburo Sakai in that while he believed very strongly in doing his duty, he doesn't feel good about the things he got involved in (and probably not the leadership that ordered them, either). I really felt like he was sincere in wanting to befriend O'Brien, and man...I had this sense he was right on the verge of saying something that could've been HUGE in terms of helping both men find peace. And when O'Brien cut him off and stormed out--I just think that was an awful loss for them both. Very strange how a scene can be played that low-key and yet feel so powerful. I'd say Time Winters (who played Daro) is an overlooked star in this episode. This episode made a huge impression on me from the start. I only saw it once, probably back in the mid-90s...yet 6 or so years later, when I got the soundtrack to the movie Black Hawk Down, I heard this song. I didn't know the name of it at the time, and I'd never heard it with anything beside the melody. Only once had I heard it, but because this episode had burned such an impression into my mind, I knew it IMMEDIATELY and could hum right along. It was "The Minstrel Boy," of course. I don't think I've EVER had such instant recall of a song heard only once, after such a long period of time--or the feelings that went with it. Incredible episode. I had better shut up before I write a novel based on it. Oh wait...I already am.
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S3 and S4 contain some of the best eps in the series, IMO.
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Sky One meanwhile wanted to be more edgy and showed it, but cut out the line about the IRA. |
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Location: Either Quark's, or a bar on St. Mark's Place
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Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor
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(Which I didn't get to see until last year when I bought the DVDs.)
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S3 and S4 contain some of the best eps in the series, IMO.






