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Old March 3 2009, 08:51 PM   #31
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Phoenix?

I'm not sure; I didn't see the source listed on Memory Alpha; it does mention that the novelization of First Contact lists his birth year as 2013 to fit more with Cromwell's age at the time, which works fine with me.

I have a sneaking suspicion that 2032 may be based on his age at the time of his disappearance and inferred backwards from dialogue spoken by Kirk and company in 'Metamorphosis.'
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Old March 4 2009, 03:35 AM   #32
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Phoenix?

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When was it said that Cochrane was born in 2032? Was that in TOS or during FC or after?
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I'm not sure; I didn't see the source listed on Memory Alpha; it does mention that the novelization of First Contact lists his birth year as 2013 to fit more with Cromwell's age at the time, which works fine with me.

I have a sneaking suspicion that 2032 may be based on his age at the time of his disappearance and inferred backwards from dialogue spoken by Kirk and company in 'Metamorphosis.'

I'm pretty sure the 2032 date was conjectured by the Okudas while writing the first edition of the Star trek Chronology. I don't think it was ever stated on screen. But it's a reasonable assumption based on their overall frame of reference. IIRC it was assumed based on the age of Glenn Corbet (did I get that right?) anyway, the guy who played Cochrane in "Metamorphosis".
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Old March 4 2009, 07:41 AM   #33
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Phoenix?

Here's a concept I whipped up in about 10 minutes. It keeps the nacelle design but is based off of one of those "tail lander" reusable one-stage lifter rockets NASA was experimenting with until recently. Once orbit was achieved, the outer "skin" would be jettisoned so the nacelles could be deployed.



Here's a closeup of the "engineering section". The nacelles AREN'T transparent, though they look semi-transparent. The idea is that when active, the power being forced into the warp coils superexcites their structure such that they throw off so much energy that they can be seen even through the heavy metal shielding.

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Old March 4 2009, 07:58 PM   #34
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darkwing_duck1 wrote: View Post
Here's a concept I whipped up in about 10 minutes. It keeps the nacelle design but is based off of one of those "tail lander" reusable one-stage lifter rockets NASA was experimenting with until recently. Once orbit was achieved, the outer "skin" would be jettisoned so the nacelles could be deployed.



Here's a closeup of the "engineering section". The nacelles AREN'T transparent, though they look semi-transparent. The idea is that when active, the power being forced into the warp coils superexcites their structure such that they throw off so much energy that they can be seen even through the heavy metal shielding.

This is really cool. In particular, the idea regarding the warp coils rendering their coverings partially translucent is an intriguing one that might have made for a nice effects compromise on 'Enterprise' - nacelles that, while at rest, look like primitive TOS nacelles, but while at warp glow bluish and translucenty around their warp coils similar to their later counterparts. Bravo, again!
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Old March 6 2009, 07:23 PM   #35
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Glenn Corbet was 36 during that episode of TOS (he was born in 1930 IIRC). Whatever season it was in I have no idea...
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