Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville *SPOILERS* - Page 3

Christopher · January 27 2009, 01:50 AM

Okay, not understanding the love for Tempus. I found him a mediocre and overused excuse for a villain. One or two of the stories he was in were interesting, but the actor never appealed to me.

Besides, if you wanted a time-travelling villain in Smallville, it would make more sense to go with Chronos, as they did in Justice League Unlimited.

Kryton · January 27 2009, 02:24 AM

Tempus was the snarky voice of "reality". He was the lone voice in the wilderness of utopian niceness ushered in by the era of Superman and he HATED it. He hated the "nice". It was his motivation and Lane Davies' matter-of-fact disgust of it all gave him character Chronos NEVER had, even when they drew him to resemble Nixon back in the day.

There was something tangible and realistic about Tempus's attitudes from the skeptical viewer's POV. And 5 appearances over 4 seasons hardly seems "overused" to me.

Admiral_Young · January 27 2009, 02:42 AM

I think I hated Tempus on Lois and Clark...he was all right the first couple of appearences on the show but they reverted back to him too much. They used him in the wedding episode didn't they? Toyman should be interesting, have known about him for a few months now. What is more important is that Requim is Kirsten Kruek's final episode as Lana Lang!

Christopher · January 27 2009, 03:38 AM

Kryton wrote:

Tempus was the snarky voice of "reality". He was the lone voice in the wilderness of utopian niceness ushered in by the era of Superman and he HATED it. He hated the "nice". It was his motivation and Lane Davies' matter-of-fact disgust of it all gave him character Chronos NEVER had, even when they drew him to resemble Nixon back in the day.

I just never cared much for the actor's performance. Besides, who said it had to be an exact copy of the comics' Chronos? They reinterpreted all the other Superman villains, so why not just stick the name Chronos on the same character who was called Tempus? I mean, what's the difference? Chronos is the Greek word for time and Tempus is the Latin word for time. It's exactly the same principle.

Chris3123 · January 27 2009, 04:39 AM

Donald Draper wrote:

Chris3123 wrote:

Toyman (Winslow Schott). Personally, I never thought they'd bring him to Smallville. He seems a bit too over the top for a live action show

Over the Top? Opposed to a more mundane character like Doomsday? LOL

By over the top I meant silly. He uses toys in his criminal enterprises. Toys.

Mr. Adventure · January 27 2009, 04:50 AM

My problem is I only know Toyman from the Superfriends so needless to say I'm less than thrilled about this anouncement.

Broccoli · January 27 2009, 07:11 AM

Christopher wrote:

Kryton wrote:

Tempus was the snarky voice of "reality". He was the lone voice in the wilderness of utopian niceness ushered in by the era of Superman and he HATED it. He hated the "nice". It was his motivation and Lane Davies' matter-of-fact disgust of it all gave him character Chronos NEVER had, even when they drew him to resemble Nixon back in the day.

I just never cared much for the actor's performance. Besides, who said it had to be an exact copy of the comics' Chronos? They reinterpreted all the other Superman villains, so why not just stick the name Chronos on the same character who was called Tempus? I mean, what's the difference? Chronos is the Greek word for time and Tempus is the Latin word for time. It's exactly the same principle.

Maybe it was a rights issue? Or DC said no for whatever reason. I dunno.

In any event, who cares? Tempus was a fan favorite. Bringing him on Smallville will probably make fans happy and might draw in some L&C fans to check out Smallville. Lets face it, a show can always use more viewers and considering Smallville is more Superman-ish than it ever was before, it couldn't be a bad thing.

Or

Split the difference. Have Chronos, but have him played by Lanes Davies.

Christopher · January 27 2009, 02:56 PM

^^Just... anything but Lane Davies. That's all I'm saying. He was anything but a favorite of this fan.

Kryton · January 28 2009, 01:04 AM

I was a fan of Davies since back in his "Sonny Sprockett" days on Santa Barbara. He has always managed to stand out in every role I've seen him in (he was even Reid's father on Scrubs).

Perhaps he is an acquired taste for some.

Broccoli · January 31 2009, 01:07 AM

From KryptonSite: The Toyman!

Chris3123 · January 31 2009, 02:07 AM

Broccoli wrote:

From KryptonSite: The Toyman!

Ha, it's Vincent from Eureka. Hmmm, I recall him appearing on Smallville before. As some LuthorCorp lab tech. I guess the Vancouver actor pool really isn't that large after all.

Capt_Piett · February 1 2009, 11:09 AM

At least he sort of looks like Winslow.....but I think calling him a "classic" Super-Man villain might be stretching it. At least it's not the child killing version....though Geoff Johns seems to have sort of retconned that away...

Kryton · February 1 2009, 03:52 PM

Didn't Schott kill Cat Grant's kid back in the day?

Broccoli · February 1 2009, 04:18 PM

Kryton wrote:

Didn't Schott kill Cat Grant's kid back in the day?

Yep.

Until the retcon came and it was revealed that it was really a robot (that went rogue, of course) that the real Toyman made in case he was captured.

I know I might be in the minority, but I actually liked that version of the character. Mostly because it took what was previous a somewhat silly character and gave him a much more serious tone.

CorporalClegg · February 1 2009, 05:40 PM

Broccoli wrote:

From KryptonSite: The Toyman!

That guy looks like Jack Black circa 1993.

January 27 2009, 01:50 AM	#31
Christopher Writer	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS Okay, not understanding the love for Tempus. I found him a mediocre and overused excuse for a villain. One or two of the stories he was in were interesting, but the actor never appealed to me. Besides, if you wanted a time-travelling villain in Smallville, it would make more sense to go with Chronos, as they did in Justice League Unlimited. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

January 27 2009, 02:24 AM	#32
Kryton Admiral Location: In ur Starbug	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS Tempus was the snarky voice of "reality". He was the lone voice in the wilderness of utopian niceness ushered in by the era of Superman and he HATED it. He hated the "nice". It was his motivation and Lane Davies' matter-of-fact disgust of it all gave him character Chronos NEVER had, even when they drew him to resemble Nixon back in the day. There was something tangible and realistic about Tempus's attitudes from the skeptical viewer's POV. And 5 appearances over 4 seasons hardly seems "overused" to me.

January 27 2009, 02:42 AM	#33
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS I think I hated Tempus on Lois and Clark...he was all right the first couple of appearences on the show but they reverted back to him too much. They used him in the wedding episode didn't they? Toyman should be interesting, have known about him for a few months now. What is more important is that Requim is Kirsten Kruek's final episode as Lana Lang! __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

January 27 2009, 04:50 AM	#36
Mr. Adventure Admiral Location: Mr. Adventure	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS My problem is I only know Toyman from the Superfriends so needless to say I'm less than thrilled about this anouncement.

January 27 2009, 02:56 PM	#38
Christopher Writer	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS ^^Just... anything but Lane Davies. That's all I'm saying. He was anything but a favorite of this fan. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

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January 28 2009, 01:04 AM	#39
Kryton Admiral Location: In ur Starbug	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS I was a fan of Davies since back in his "Sonny Sprockett" days on Santa Barbara. He has always managed to stand out in every role I've seen him in (he was even Reid's father on Scrubs). Perhaps he is an acquired taste for some.

January 31 2009, 01:07 AM	#40
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS From KryptonSite: The Toyman! __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

February 1 2009, 11:09 AM	#42
Capt_Piett Rear Admiral Location: Bremerton, Washington	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS At least he sort of looks like Winslow.....but I think calling him a "classic" Super-Man villain might be stretching it. At least it's not the child killing version....though Geoff Johns seems to have sort of retconned that away... __________________ "We childproofed our homes, but they are still getting in..."

February 1 2009, 03:52 PM	#43
Kryton Admiral Location: In ur Starbug	Re: Classic Superman villain to appear on Smallville SPOILERS Didn't Schott kill Cat Grant's kid back in the day?