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Old February 3 2009, 04:32 AM   #211
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I took the "100 light years" bit to be metaphorical: Wouldn't Earth be within a hundred light years of the Azure Nebula?
Maybe. The 2-dimensional projection of the Azure Nebula's position in Star Charts is within the 100-ly circle out from Earth, but we don't know how far "above" or "below" the plane of the page the actual nebula is (since it's an imaginary nebula, or rather, one that doesn't exist until the mid-22nd century).
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Old February 3 2009, 05:52 AM   #212
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Just finished it, and though I expect I'll blather at more length soon,
I look forward to your blathering.


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I also appreciated the chance to get to know Captain Ezri Dax a bit better; I think some of the people who had concerns about her may find a few questions answered.
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Old February 3 2009, 03:57 PM   #213
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Even though I've just started the book, I already really like the fact that this book really is showing us what's happening all around the galaxy, instead of just focusing on the Federation or Sonek's perspectives. It really does help to show just how widespread, and destructive the Borg invasion was.
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Old February 3 2009, 09:46 PM   #214
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When the U.S.S. Voyager is dispatched on an urgent mission to the planet Kerovi, Captain Chakotay and his first officer, Commander Thomas Paris, must choose between following orders and saving the lives of two of those dearest to them. B'Elanna Torres and her daughter, Miral, are both missing in the wake of a brutal attack on the Klingon world of Boreth. With the aid of their former captain, Admiral Kathryn Janeway -- as well as many old friends and new allies -- Voyager's crew must unravel an ancient mystery, placing themselves between two warrior sects battling for the soul of the Klingon people ...while the life of Mirl hangs in the balance. But these events and their repurcussions are merely the prelude to even darker days to come. As Voyager is drawn into a desperate struggle to prevent the annihilation of the Federation, lives are shattered, and the bonds that were forged in the Delta Quadrant are challenged in ways that none could have imagined. For though destiny has dealt them crushing blows, Voyager's crew must rise to face their future ...and begin a perilous journey in which the wheel of fate comes full circle.

This is the blurb for Full Circle, it seems like Torres and her daughter are still, not quite dead. And who knows, maybe even Janeway too.
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Old February 3 2009, 10:13 PM   #215
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This is the blurb for Full Circle, it seems like Torres and her daughter are still, not quite dead. And who knows, maybe even Janeway too.
Full Circle begins in 2378, after the Spirit Walk duology, and ends after Destiny. So it covers a period wherein we know for a fact that all those characters were still alive, but that doesn't say anything about their fate by the end of the book.
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Old February 3 2009, 10:20 PM   #216
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^ Yeah, the part of the blurb that mentions the Torreses also mentions Janeway, after all.
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Old February 3 2009, 10:33 PM   #217
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This is the blurb for Full Circle, it seems like Torres and her daughter are still, not quite dead. And who knows, maybe even Janeway too.
Full Circle begins in 2378, after the Spirit Walk duology, and ends after Destiny. So it covers a period wherein we know for a fact that all those characters were still alive, but that doesn't say anything about their fate by the end of the book.
That is true, but it also leaves the door wide open for anything, and I like that. I am actually quite sad that the big deaths seem to keep coming from Voyager, I really liked Tom and Torres, so I am hoping that she is not dead.
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OK, i got this book some time ago. Finished it in a week. I simply could not put it down! I loved the explanations between the chapters. Those were really cool and gave us an insight into what other individuals were up to, and of course, the oft-mentioned casualty list. When i saw those names, i took another look. And another. i was like, "Oh no he didn't!" In a good way though. As for the Typhon Pact, great idea. Completely surround the Federation and her allies. Oh btw, nice to see Rom is still in power.
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Old February 4 2009, 04:31 AM   #219
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When the U.S.S. Voyager is dispatched on an urgent mission to the planet Kerovi, Captain Chakotay and his first officer, Commander Thomas Paris, must choose between following orders and saving the lives of two of those dearest to them. B'Elanna Torres and her daughter, Miral, are both missing in the wake of a brutal attack on the Klingon world of Boreth. With the aid of their former captain, Admiral Kathryn Janeway -- as well as many old friends and new allies -- Voyager's crew must unravel an ancient mystery, placing themselves between two warrior sects battling for the soul of the Klingon people ...while the life of Mirl hangs in the balance. But these events and their repurcussions are merely the prelude to even darker days to come. As Voyager is drawn into a desperate struggle to prevent the annihilation of the Federation, lives are shattered, and the bonds that were forged in the Delta Quadrant are challenged in ways that none could have imagined. For though destiny has dealt them crushing blows, Voyager's crew must rise to face their future ...and begin a perilous journey in which the wheel of fate comes full circle.

This is the blurb for Full Circle, it seems like Torres and her daughter are still, not quite dead. And who knows, maybe even Janeway too.
Just out of curiosity, where did you find this?
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Old February 4 2009, 04:38 AM   #220
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Just out of curiosity, where did you find this?
I don't know where Enterpriserules specifically found it, but it was posted here waaaay back in November. And confirmed by Kirsten that it was accurate (sans the typos in that link).
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Old February 4 2009, 05:12 AM   #221
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Oh, I thought that was a different one. My bad.
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Old February 4 2009, 09:07 AM   #222
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KRAD:

You've heard it many times in this thread, but I'll repeat it again: You did a fine job with A Singular Destiny, and I look forward to the continuation of this storyline the rest of this year and, especially, in 2010.

I was wondering if it'd be possible to shed some light on a few questions I have:

1. In the Destiny trilogy, I was left with the impression that it was pretty much the entire Alpha Quadrant that bore the brunt of the Borg invasion. Yet, in ASD, it seems that only the Federation and Klingons — along with some independent systems — suffered from the 7,000 plus Borg ships' attempt at genocide.

Did none of the Typhon Pact powers suffer losses at the hands of the Collective?

2. I'll be the first to admit that my familiarity with the geopolitical boundaries of the Alpha and Beta quadrants is sketchy at best, but does the Typhon Pact really surround the entire Federation? Not to mention the Klingons and other AQ/BQ powers, such as the Cardassian Union, Ferengi Alliance, etc.?

3. Does the Typhon Pact outgun the Federation and its allies? After all, only *half* of the Romulan people belong to it — the Romulan Star Empire, *not* the Imperial Romulan State — and I figure that it'd take the combined strength of the other Pact members (Tezenkethi, Gorn, Breen, etc.) to bring the entire amalagation up to the military strength/geopolitical reach of the formerly unified Romulan Star Empire. And that's assuming *none* of the Pact powers were impacted by the Borg invasion.

4. Judging from the Typhon Pact's initial actions (those prior to its *official* formation), I think there's a very real possibility of them being an overt foe of the Federation and its allies or, at the very least, openly antagonistic. To wit:

4a. The sabotage of the dilithium mining efforts. (Not officially linked, but still ...)
4b. The sabotage of the efforts to build atmospheric domes. (Not officially linked, but still ...)
4c. The invasion and occupation of two Klingon worlds by the Kinshasha.

And, yes, I know the Pact apologized for its actions against the Klingons, but the damage is still done, even though the Klingons retook Krios in the end. Also, the Tholian ambassador to the Federation made it pretty damn clear that the Pact was no friend to the UFP or its allies. After all, the recalling of ambassadors is usually a bad sign of things to come. Not to mention the ambassador's words "... we assure that you are the one surrounded by a heavily armed hostile power."

Frankly, I can't see much good coming out this at all for the UFP and its allies. In the best-case scenario, it basically puts the AQ/BQ back to how it was when the UFP faced off against the Klingons and Romulans, back in Kirk's day — a Cold War-esque set up. In the worst-case scenario, well, it probably involves more shooting and death.

When all is said and done, KRAD, rest assured that you've got my attention and I plan on following this development in Trek literature!

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P.S. Hey, what are the odds we'll ever get a dead tree version of the Trek lit timeline? It'd help greatly in keeping track of characters and events.
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Old February 4 2009, 04:01 PM   #223
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Well, we have gotten several versions, the last one of which was in the last 60 or so pages of Voyages of Imagination. I wouldn't mind getting a new version though, it may be only two years out of date, but it's been a very eventfull two years.
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Well I have to say even through I'm still reading the book, I'm really enjoying it so far. I am a fan of Tom Clancy, so I'm glad that KRAD did a Trek book like this. We the fans needed something like this.
Anywho, I'm enjoying the various characters popping up all over the place. Glad to see that some of the SCE characters made an appearence and they are continuing to move on with the times. I'm also growing fond of Sonek Pran. I don't know why but just am. Hopefully he will pop up in one of the future books.
I will give my final review once I'm finished, since I'm now on Chapter 10.
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You've heard it many times in this thread, but I'll repeat it again: You did a fine job with A Singular Destiny, and I look forward to the continuation of this storyline the rest of this year and, especially, in 2010.
Thanks!


1. In the Destiny trilogy, I was left with the impression that it was pretty much the entire Alpha Quadrant that bore the brunt of the Borg invasion. Yet, in ASD, it seems that only the Federation and Klingons — along with some independent systems — suffered from the 7,000 plus Borg ships' attempt at genocide.

Did none of the Typhon Pact powers suffer losses at the hands of the Collective?
Sure they did. The Klingons, Federation, and two Romulan nations got the worst of it because they're the ones most proximate to the Azure Nebula, but everyone got hit. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.


2. I'll be the first to admit that my familiarity with the geopolitical boundaries of the Alpha and Beta quadrants is sketchy at best, but does the Typhon Pact really surround the entire Federation? Not to mention the Klingons and other AQ/BQ powers, such as the Cardassian Union, Ferengi Alliance, etc.?
Not literally, no. Metaphorically, yes.


3. Does the Typhon Pact outgun the Federation and its allies? After all, only *half* of the Romulan people belong to it — the Romulan Star Empire, *not* the Imperial Romulan State — and I figure that it'd take the combined strength of the other Pact members (Tezenkethi, Gorn, Breen, etc.) to bring the entire amalagation up to the military strength/geopolitical reach of the formerly unified Romulan Star Empire. And that's assuming *none* of the Pact powers were impacted by the Borg invasion.
It's probably about equal, though it's hard to say, with all the losses taken to the Borg.


4. Judging from the Typhon Pact's initial actions (those prior to its *official* formation), I think there's a very real possibility of them being an overt foe of the Federation and its allies or, at the very least, openly antagonistic.
Those aren't the Typhon Pact's initial actions, those are the Tholians and the Kinshaya's initial actions. By which I mean to say that the six members all have different reasons for joining. While there's a level of enlightened self-interest there -- and Tal'Aura in particular has an empire to feed -- the Tholians and the Kinshaya have very specific issues with the Federation and Klingons that they see the Pact as an opportunity to address. How long the rest of the Pact allows that is anyone's guess.


When all is said and done, KRAD, rest assured that you've got my attention and I plan on following this development in Trek literature!
Again, thanks!


P.S. Hey, what are the odds we'll ever get a dead tree version of the Trek lit timeline? It'd help greatly in keeping track of characters and events.
As JD said, we've gotten three. Not sure when we'll get another....
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