"Sometimes a Great Notion" Live Commentary - Page 16

Agent Richard07 · January 17 2009, 06:05 AM

Procutus wrote:

cbspock wrote:

I wonder if they will find Count Iblis..lol

You know it's funny, of all the other concepts or plot devises from the original show, Iblis is the one I'm still expecting to see before this is all said and done.

I feel the same way. I want that and a Dirk Benedict guest appearance, but that's not gonna happen now unless he does appear and they're keeping it a surprise.

Brent · January 17 2009, 06:06 AM

ThunderAeroI wrote:

How do we compare the fact that the humans where able to find Earth via that holodeck on Kobal then? Or the trail left by the 13th tribe to prevent modern Cylons from finding Earth?

In the first, it would require the 13th tribe to come back to Kobal at some point to leave the clue. Why leave the clue at all, what would be the point? Why build the tempel of the five on the Alge Planet and not on Earth?

I think we are probably looking at a situation where these three planets are being recycled every 4,000 years or so. They are caught in a temperal loop without the temporal loop. Only so many planets can support life and for whatever reason the humans, cylons, and machines are being guided in this loop over and over and over again to the amusement of Bill Murrey.

I hope that theory isn't correct, I don't want any time loops please.

SeerSGB · January 17 2009, 06:09 AM

Well they could always go with the whole "Everyone is already dead, the journey is pugatory, Earth=Heaven, Nuked Earth is a test, and only by faith can they discover the real "Earth"" angle.

bigdaddy · January 17 2009, 06:13 AM

I think in the end they will find a planet to settle on, and only a few will be left. Those few make a new Earth and over time grow. That Earth will be our Earth.

So in short the show takes place thousands of years in our past and will lead up another loop.

Brent · January 17 2009, 06:15 AM

bigdaddy wrote:

I think in the end they will find a planet to settle on, and only a few will be left. Those few make a new Earth and over time grow. That Earth will be our Earth.

So in short the show takes place thousands of years in our past and will lead up another loop.

I dunno, it looked like our Earth to me.

Tulin · January 17 2009, 07:47 AM

SeerSGB wrote:

Brolan wrote:

To make the final Cylon a minor, dead, character smacks of them chickening out.

Agreed. It also smacks of "we've painted ourselves into a corner and we're pulling out of our asses at the this point"

Welcome to nuBSG.

Bacl · January 17 2009, 08:14 AM

SeerSGB wrote:

Well they could always go with the whole "Everyone is already dead, the journey is pugatory, Earth=Heaven, Nuked Earth is a test, and only by faith can they discover the real "Earth"" angle.

You're confusing Battlestar Galactica with Lost. Just replace "Earth" with "Island" and there ya go!

The Master of Tarquin Hill · January 17 2009, 08:17 AM

Chess Piece Face wrote:

Ellen being the 5th Cylon in really boring and lame unless there is a 13th Cylon surprise waiting for us.

Thank you for typing that for me.

Ellen as the Fifth, no matter how interesting and dramatically stimulating I found her character to be earlier in the show, is a slap in the face at this point.

It would be such a major letdown that I just don't buy it at this point. Then again, it would not be the first time time that RDM has let me down with this show.

The Master of Tarquin Hill · January 17 2009, 08:20 AM

bigdaddy wrote:

I think in the end they will find a planet to settle on, and only a few will be left. Those few make a new Earth and over time grow. That Earth will be our Earth.

I think you are right. That is, if you mean that there will be a few cylons and a few "regular" humans who have to intermingle in order to perpetuate.

I am so annoyed.

The Master of Tarquin Hill · January 17 2009, 08:22 AM

Brent wrote:

bigdaddy wrote:

I think in the end they will find a planet to settle on, and only a few will be left. Those few make a new Earth and over time grow. That Earth will be our Earth.

So in short the show takes place thousands of years in our past and will lead up another loop.

I dunno, it looked like our Earth to me.

Why?

How?

sidious618 · January 17 2009, 08:27 AM

It's occurred to me that it really doesn't matter who the final Cylon is. At this point we now know that the five were from the past and not really sleeper agents. If they made it Roslin would it change anything? Not really, no. She won't all of a sudden say, "Let's join up with Cavil!"

Ellen seems a weird choice at first but in the end it may indeed work well.

Devnull · January 17 2009, 09:17 AM

What an amazing ep, so much darkness in one neat little package.

Aragorn · January 17 2009, 10:29 AM

ThunderAeroI wrote:

Who would be nuking the 13th tribe of Cylons on Earth? Humans?

The humans were created by Cylons. They rebelled. They evolved.

Skywalker · January 17 2009, 10:39 AM

Aragorn wrote:

ThunderAeroI wrote:

Who would be nuking the 13th tribe of Cylons on Earth? Humans?

The humans were created by Cylons. They rebelled. They evolved.

But do they have a plan?

Hartzilla2007 · January 17 2009, 04:06 PM

ThunderAeroI wrote:

How do we compare the fact that the humans where able to find Earth via that holodeck on Kobal then? Or the trail left by the 13th tribe to prevent modern Cylons from finding Earth?

In the first, it would require the 13th tribe to come back to Kobal at some point to leave the clue. Why leave the clue at all, what would be the point? Why build the tempel of the five on the Alge Planet and not on Earth?

I think we are probably looking at a situation where these three planets are being recycled every 4,000 years or so. They are caught in a temperal loop without the temporal loop. Only so many planets can support life and for whatever reason the humans, cylons, and machines are being guided in this loop over and over and over again to the amusement of Bill Murrey.

In other words All This Has Happened Before And It Will Happen Again And Again And Again And Again......

January 17 2009, 06:09 AM	#228
SeerSGB Admiral Location: Tennessee	Re: "Sometimes a Great Notion" Live Commentary Well they could always go with the whole "Everyone is already dead, the journey is pugatory, Earth=Heaven, Nuked Earth is a test, and only by faith can they discover the real "Earth"" angle. __________________ - SeerSGB - Fans want to watch the movie, listen to the music, look at the pretty pictures, read the story. They are not looking to assimilate-- Colleen Doran

January 17 2009, 06:13 AM	#229
bigdaddy Vice Admiral Location: Space Massachusetts	Re: "Sometimes a Great Notion" Live Commentary I think in the end they will find a planet to settle on, and only a few will be left. Those few make a new Earth and over time grow. That Earth will be our Earth. So in short the show takes place thousands of years in our past and will lead up another loop. __________________ "Bqhatevwr" - Former Senator Scott Brown

January 17 2009, 08:27 AM	#236
sidious618 Admiral Location: New York, US	Re: "Sometimes a Great Notion" Live Commentary It's occurred to me that it really doesn't matter who the final Cylon is. At this point we now know that the five were from the past and not really sleeper agents. If they made it Roslin would it change anything? Not really, no. She won't all of a sudden say, "Let's join up with Cavil!" Ellen seems a weird choice at first but in the end it may indeed work well. __________________ We've met before, haven't we?

January 17 2009, 09:17 AM	#237
Devnull Captain Location: Delphi, Caprica	Re: "Sometimes a Great Notion" Live Commentary What an amazing ep, so much darkness in one neat little package.

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