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Excellent 197 71.38%
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Old January 17 2009, 05:12 AM   #61
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x11: "Sometimes a Great Notion"

Great episode. It really does put the whole Cylon thing into question now and there were so many other questions but also some reveals. I think it might be tough to talk about this episode without seeing where it goes because the series pretty much has been thrown up into the air and everyone characters, writers, fans, are just shell shocked. I can't wait to see what happens next.

Excellent.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:13 AM   #62
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By the way, did Adama imply that some 13th colony survivors left Earth after their holocaust and might be somewhere else? I didn't fully get what he said in that part of his announcement.
I think he was referring to the exodus from Kobol.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:13 AM   #63
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That was a powerhouse. Jesus Christ. At this point I am prepared to say it was the best episode of Galactica ever. Its like those last 5 minutes of Crossroads, but for a whole episode, glued together with some 33, with a little Kobol's Last Gleaming on top.

I can't believe how much plot was thrown at us! Compare to "He Hath Believeth in Me", that episode barely resolved anything... I was sort of expecting something similar. But no.

Holy.

Shit.

When Dee shot herself I literally sat up and put my face close to the TV.

Footnote: It was nice to see Baltar in Dr. mode ala season 1 again.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:13 AM   #64
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x11: "Sometimes a Great Notion"

Now I'm wondering, are they going to ever come back to Earth? I get the impression that the next episode, and future eps, will have the fleet going somewhere else to look for another home. Are we ever gonna go back to Earth to learn more? It certainly seems Kara has a LOT to learn by returning back to Earth.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:14 AM   #65
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Here was referencing the people of Kobol, who left that planet to go to the Twelve Colonies.

I voted Excellent. It was so good to have this show back and it was just great.

You could smell the thing with Dee coming a mile away but that didn't make it any less effective. It's a shame too because her interaction with Lee was the best yet between the two. I think the most effective scene was when Roslin and the Adamas return from Earth. Just what the hell do you say to everyone after what you've found?

Kudos to all the actors tonight, particularly Michael Hogan, EJO, and Mary McDonnell. It's a crime that none of them have gotten Emmy nominations.

I thought it was Starbuck but Ellen came as a suprirse. Saul and Ellen Tigh...the most frakked up starcrossed lovers the galaxy has ever seen.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:14 AM   #66
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x11: "Sometimes a Great Notion"

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By the way, did Adama imply that some 13th colony survivors left Earth after their holocaust and might be somewhere else? I didn't fully get what he said in that part of his announcement.
He did imply that. I had a feeling it was a combination of blowing smoke like his original Earth promise and the fact that, you know, everyone on Earth appears to have been cylons. So they must have gone somewhere given there's obviously cylons elsewhere.

He didn't mention the cylon stuff in the announcement. I get the feeling that's not public knowledge yet.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:17 AM   #67
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Holy cow! I mean....FRAK!!! Amazing.

I didn't realize how much I missed this show until tonight! Amazing is all I can say. I may have to let it sink in a bit more before I am able to put more coherent thoughts together.

Dee? Wow. Starbuck---what is she? Ellen? Kind of knew but stilll not sure where that leads. Maybe like a previous poster saying that they built the cylon race... interesting none the less

Wow.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:29 AM   #68
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WHAT THE FRAK! WHAT THE FRAK! WHAT THE FRAK!

That's all I got right now, I haven't been this floored since Crossroads, Part II -- which was the end of my 2 week marathon introduction. I'll wait to pass judgment on Ellen until later. For now, sure, it works, but WHAT THE FRAK.


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Old January 17 2009, 05:32 AM   #69
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Footnote: It was nice to see Baltar in Dr. mode ala season 1 again.
I was just thinking that too. He's right back where he was in season 1. This whole crisis really made everyone set aside their differences.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:33 AM   #70
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I voted "below average." Basically an episode of filler. We already knew Earth was dead; the whole series led up to finding it and now, in one episode, we've left it. We already knew Starbuck couldn't be herself in the literal sense; she isn't. The series overtly presented itself as a buildup to the identity of the final Cylon; it's (supposedly) a character who already died. An attempt was made to add shock value by killing off an unimportant character.

Even if all this is misdirection and we're being held off from something really fascinating, this particular episode would just be marking time. From the "memories" I suspect that we're headed towards some jerking off about souls and predestination paradoxes and so forth, and if the word "Cylon" is stripped of any more meaning, they might as well leave it out of the scripts.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:34 AM   #71
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Good, dark episode. I will say though that Dee's suicide wasn't a major shock, because I felt it was telegraphed early on with her lifeless depressed breakdown on the raptor flying back, maybe because i've bbeen there with depression, how she was going around trying to fill her time with "joy" (playing with cylon baby, out with Apollo), it was very true to life.

The Kara stuff is a major WTF sequence and pretty much the best part of the episode.

I was disappointed with the lack of plot development other than Kara. I guess there was good character development to make up for it, but still.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:35 AM   #72
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I gave it an above average - it would have been excellent except for the last scene.
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I voted "below average." Basically an episode of filler. We already knew Earth was dead; the whole series led up to finding it and now, in one episode, we've left it. We already knew Starbuck couldn't be herself in the literal sense; she isn't. The series overtly presented itself as a buildup to the identity of the final Cylon; it's (supposedly) a character who already died. An attempt was made to add shock value by killing off an unimportant character.

Even if all this is misdirection and we're being held off from something really fascinating, this particular episode would just be marking time. From the "memories" I suspect that we're headed towards some jerking off about souls and predestination paradoxes and so forth, and if the word "Cylon" is stripped of any more meaning, they might as well leave it out of the scripts.

Filler? Are you kidding? A WHOLE lot of stuff was actually revealed tonight, I'm surprised they showed so much.
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Old January 17 2009, 05:41 AM   #74
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I give it an Excellent. Sure, they revealed some stuff about Earth and the final cylon, but some posters are right when they say it's not crazy packed full of revelations. Fine by me.

The character stuff this week was superb. My jaw was on the floor for Adama and Tigh's "heart to heart." Somebody find those guys a couple Emmys in the rubble of Earth!

As to Ellen, when I first considered the possibility it might be her a couple months ago I thought it had the potential to be pretty crappy. Also, it would emotionally gut her murder at Tigh's hands. But then I thought about it, and her being a cylon makes that whole thing more tragic and cool, not less.

Obviously it's all going to depend on how they handle it leading up to the end, but so far I'm convinced they know what they're doing.

Second best episode of the season so far, just behind "Revelations."
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I voted "below average." Basically an episode of filler. We already knew Earth was dead; the whole series led up to finding it and now, in one episode, we've left it. We already knew Starbuck couldn't be herself in the literal sense; she isn't. The series overtly presented itself as a buildup to the identity of the final Cylon; it's (supposedly) a character who already died. An attempt was made to add shock value by killing off an unimportant character.

Even if all this is misdirection and we're being held off from something really fascinating, this particular episode would just be marking time. From the "memories" I suspect that we're headed towards some jerking off about souls and predestination paradoxes and so forth, and if the word "Cylon" is stripped of any more meaning, they might as well leave it out of the scripts.
This has to be a joke.... this is perhaps the most plot-revealing episode of the entire series, and you're calling it filler.
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