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Old January 17 2009, 08:07 PM   #151
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x11: "Sometimes a Great Notion"

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Above average. I felt it was a little too slow in starting--we knew Earth was dead, we didn't need that much detail on why. But, otherwise, amazing.
I think we do need detail on why, I want to know the frak what happened!

A possibility is that its what happen on New Caprica, and their history is just repeating itself. That's what I think, and I think that they are doomed to keep repeating it, until they can figure out how to stop it.

One of the other thoughts that kept running in my head was that I was wondering where they taped it at. I think that they tape in "Hollywood of the North"..right? I just like the dark pebble like sand that was on the beach.
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Old January 17 2009, 08:33 PM   #152
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But I gotta say, if I were a depressed type, I might have gone looking for a way to shoot my brains out too: bleak doesn't begin to cover the feeling and the atmosphere of this ep.
But that's been BSG's thing for a while now. It's the reason I see the show as good but not great----it seems to think the best kind of drama is when the characters are miserable. It hasn't actually been fun to watch since the evacuation of New Caprica, and only intermittently before that.
yeah, it's normal for BSG to be on the depressing side but I felt it was even more so than usual this time. Possibly because I hadn't watched an episode for months.

As for good or great, I don't know, but it's true that later seasons haven't compelled me to rewatch episodes again and again like I did with S1 and S2 and other shows I love. Come to think of it, the only other show I can say to love but don't rewatch it's The Wire.
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Old January 17 2009, 08:41 PM   #153
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Wouldn't you be depressed if you got to your destination, having been on the journey to that destination for years facing hardships beyond belief, only to find out all your hopes and dreams of that destination are shattered, and there is no clear path to follow now? I would be a bit depressed.
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Old January 17 2009, 08:48 PM   #154
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I had to record this. WOW. Dee's suicide was heartbreaking. I should have seen it coming, but I didn't. Her kissing Apollo one last time, her visiting little Hera--it all made sense. She wanted to touch base with what made her happy one last time.

Great eppy!
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Old January 17 2009, 08:54 PM   #155
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If you think that this episode was really bleak and depressing then I'd hate to see your reaction to The Wire or The Shield.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:04 PM   #156
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If you think that this episode was really bleak and depressing then I'd hate to see your reaction to The Wire or The Shield.
I was thinking the exact same thing. 'Sometimes a Great Notion' was pretty damn bleak and it only looks like it's going to get worse from here, but for me I don't think anything can out-bleak The Shield's 'Family Meeting.' Good god.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:21 PM   #157
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But I gotta say, if I were a depressed type, I might have gone looking for a way to shoot my brains out too: bleak doesn't begin to cover the feeling and the atmosphere of this ep.
But that's been BSG's thing for a while now. It's the reason I see the show as good but not great----it seems to think the best kind of drama is when the characters are miserable. It hasn't actually been fun to watch since the evacuation of New Caprica, and only intermittently before that.
It's a fair point. If there are ten bad things that can happen to a person on BSG, the writers always make sure that at least nine of those happen for the characters. Sometimes I think they do it just for the sake of doing it. That's a legitimate criticism.

But you know what? It doesn't bother me. Even with the bleak as hell atmosphere, I still loved last night's episode and it reminded me why the show is so good in the first place.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:25 PM   #158
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I was thinking the exact same thing. 'Sometimes a Great Notion' was pretty damn bleak and it only looks like it's going to get worse from here, but for me I don't think anything can out-bleak The Shield's 'Family Meeting.' Good god.
Short of Adama killing Lee, Roslin and then himself it'll be tough to out bleak "Family Meeting."
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Old January 17 2009, 09:33 PM   #159
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If you think that this episode was really bleak and depressing then I'd hate to see your reaction to The Wire or The Shield.
Well, I actually love The Wire but, as I said above, I don't rewatch its episodes over and over like I do with other favorites and the same goes for BSG S3 and S4. I have to take them both in small doses

For the record, I wasn't complaining about the bleakness, I totally get why it is so. I was just saying that it felt even more pronounced this time, maybe appropriately so or maybe because I had forgotten a bit how BSG can be/has been. Probably both. I don't expect it to get better either...any resolution that doesn't involve everybody dying, I'll call it a happy ending
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Old January 17 2009, 09:36 PM   #160
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I've read some speculation on how long the wreck and Starbucks body had been on Earth... Some think there may be time travel involved.

I don't think so. I think this is where her wrecked ship and herself ended up after disappearing/dying in the maelstrom storm. No time travel involved. The same 'force' that rebuilt her and her fighter transported her dead/dying body to Earth.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:38 PM   #161
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I don't expect it to get better either...any resolution that doesn't involve everybody dying, I'll call it a happy ending
"How was the BSG finale?"

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Old January 17 2009, 09:47 PM   #162
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I've read some speculation on how long the wreck and Starbucks body had been on Earth... Some think there may be time travel involved.

I don't think so. I think this is where her wrecked ship and herself ended up after disappearing/dying in the maelstrom storm. No time travel involved. The same 'force' that rebuilt her and her fighter transported her dead/dying body to Earth.
DYING, I pretty sure Starbuck's original body was instanly deep fried meaning just dead thats kind of why her flight suite and helmet were black and why the body was scorched looking.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:50 PM   #163
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If you think that this episode was really bleak and depressing then I'd hate to see your reaction to The Wire or The Shield.
I was thinking the exact same thing. 'Sometimes a Great Notion' was pretty damn bleak and it only looks like it's going to get worse from here, but for me I don't think anything can out-bleak The Shield's 'Family Meeting.' Good god.
That was only one storyline though, BSG is thoroughly bleak and depressing sometimes.
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Old January 17 2009, 09:51 PM   #164
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Yes, Brent, the scene makes sense..after the fact...Three could have simply told him Ellen was the final Cylon. So, that scene is just gratuitous.
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Old January 17 2009, 10:05 PM   #165
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consistent with Starbuck finding a centuries old corpse of herself
Was it centuries old? I thought it was just damage to her body from fire (i.e. the explosion of her Viper) that made it look like that.
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Dee is dead!!! Dee is dead!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The annoying bug eyed, martian lookin bitch is dead!!!!!!!!! WOO HOO!!!! (the bitch better not come back as the 5th now.....) If only Adama and the Prez offed themselves, then I would have given it an excellent. Tigh, as usual, is the frickin man. I wish more time would have been spent with Baltar, Tyrol & Anders, but eh. DEE IS DEAD!!!!!!
Charming.



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I don't know how I feel about the revelations from last night's episode yet. As with all things, it will take time to let it sink in and evaluate what it all means, but on the whole it was well done.
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